I've just switched to Firefox and am very happy with this over IE but I was
going through my site and saw that I can't see the edits that I had done using a
css style file (they were fine under IE) and was wondering if I was missing a
plugin or if FireFox just doesnt support them. Either way, I'm still keeping
this browser, I just wanna see what I can do to make the site nice looking for
all browsers.
In my own experience, Firefox supports more CSS attributes than IE. Many times
I will look up a particular attribute, check it on Firefox, and then find out
that IE doesn't support it. Just make sure you use valid CSS and you should be
ok.
Have a look at this: WebCiv's Web
Standards Software and Learning
If you scroll down a bit, you'll see headers that break CSS into sections. Click
on a section to get a nice comparison chart that illustrates CSS support accross
browsers.
I had problems with CSS rendering oddly on my beloved Firefox, too. Get it to
look OK in IE, it looks all weird in Firefox. *sigh*
I've also heard that Firefox renders ... more literally .... than IE. It's quite
maddening, though. Good luck.
as many people pointed out...it's not a problem with firefox but the problem
lies with IE. Make sure that what you write in CSS is standards compliant. If
you look at your page in Firefox and start moving things around a bit, you'll
realize that IE is actually rendering your page improperly.
But yeah go look at that link and look around for W3C standards. Something it
may just be a single line of code which tells your browser (be it IE or Firefox)
to follow a set of standards.
Another thing that helps greatly is the
[url=https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=(...)
Developer[/url] toolbar extension for Firefox. You can edit the CSS live and
watch the page update as you type. It also has options for showing all sorts of
hidden stuff, outlining table cells, block level elements, validation and tons
of other great stuff.
i found that Firefox and IE often differ on the margins that they default to on
various elements. I eventually figured this out by having it outline
block-level elements and playing with the CSS.
If I recall, changing the scrollbar colors is an IE only thing (or at least used
to be if that has changed). Personally I find different scrollbars as more of
an invasion of my desktop environment rather and an annoyance than integration
with a website. It adds extremely little to the site overall.
haha yeah...those pesky brackets can do it :P glad it worked out
Jim, i beg to differ on the scroll bars....if you have divs which you can
imagine to look like inline tables and you have scroll bars in there (as they
are fixed sized) it would look better if they were integrated to the page.
Altho I do agree that the main window scrollbars changing would invade your
desktop :P
Quote by angelanJim, i beg to differ on
the scroll bars....if you have divs which you
can imagine to look like inline tables and you have scroll bars in
there (as they are fixed sized) it would look better if they were
integrated to the page. Altho I do agree that the main window
scrollbars changing would invade your desktop :P
Ah, iframes and webpages that insist on having content that scrolls in
subwindows (divs, iframes, etc.) are a major pet peeve of mine. I can't even
describe how annoying it is to have a high-res monitor and have some douchebag
web designer force me to scroll around tiny boxes in a layout that takes up 10%
of my screen area for absolutely no reason. If you find yourself needing that
kind of thing (except on multiline text inputs in forms), you have done
something wrong in the layout of the page.
Oh God, not another thread about it. No matter what kind of forum you visit,
when there is a section about webdesign then there are always at least a
handfull of topics where people ask these kinda things. They switched browsers
and now they all of a sudden realize that they have been coding wrong the entire
time along.
Good thing we still have the best source for these kinda things, the official
site of the W3C. Get your code valid and test it on more browsers then just
crappy IE, from NetCaptor, NetScape, Safari, Konqueror to Opera.
I appologize, Firefox, but I figured its best to ask for help than to leave the
code wrong or make it worse, the only way to learn is by doing so thats what I
did. I will look at other browsers too, so thanks for listing some of them.
I just tried editing the "Customize userpage:layout" of my page
colors. The page that I enter the color codes, I tried the hex codes and the rgb
(##,##,##) codes, and my firefox simply won't display them. I tried again using
IE and it worked.
I didn't write my own code, I just used the custom page colors fields already
there. Help??
Edit:
And I did remember to put the # infront of the hex codes.
Edit2:
Never mind, I found the thread that explains the who "you need to clear
your cache" process. Hmm, never had to do that before....
There are some differences between IE and Firefox. I'm a bit of a web designer
myself and one distinct difference I've seen so far is that Firefox doesn't seem
to support scrollbar colors. Some sites have customized scrollbar colors but
only shows up on IE or IE-based browsers but not on Firefox or Netscape-based
browsers. Besides that, I haven't really seen any other differences.
I also using Firefox
it OK but sometime need plug-in
but overall , think faster than ie
i also introduce it to other MT friend if they encounter download problem
their feedback seem OK
I've just switched to Firefox and am very happy with this over IE but I was going through my site and saw that I can't see the edits that I had done using a css style file (they were fine under IE) and was wondering if I was missing a plugin or if FireFox just doesnt support them. Either way, I'm still keeping this browser, I just wanna see what I can do to make the site nice looking for all browsers.
Thanks in advance
i'm not entirely sure, but i think firefox is kind of like netscape 4. that means it doesnt support some things IE does.
...
Actually, Firefox accepts valid coding better than IE.
If you're having problems, I'd suggest you to first validate its HTML and CSS through W3C's official tools.
In my own experience, Firefox supports more CSS attributes than IE. Many times I will look up a particular attribute, check it on Firefox, and then find out that IE doesn't support it. Just make sure you use valid CSS and you should be ok.
alright, so i've fixed the font and link attributes coding, can scrollbars be edited for different colors?
Have a look at this: WebCiv's Web Standards Software and Learning
If you scroll down a bit, you'll see headers that break CSS into sections. Click on a section to get a nice comparison chart that illustrates CSS support accross browsers.
I had problems with CSS rendering oddly on my beloved Firefox, too. Get it to look OK in IE, it looks all weird in Firefox. *sigh*
I've also heard that Firefox renders ... more literally .... than IE. It's quite maddening, though. Good luck.
as many people pointed out...it's not a problem with firefox but the problem lies with IE. Make sure that what you write in CSS is standards compliant. If you look at your page in Firefox and start moving things around a bit, you'll realize that IE is actually rendering your page improperly.
But yeah go look at that link and look around for W3C standards. Something it may just be a single line of code which tells your browser (be it IE or Firefox) to follow a set of standards.
Another thing that helps greatly is the [url=https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=(...) Developer[/url] toolbar extension for Firefox. You can edit the CSS live and watch the page update as you type. It also has options for showing all sorts of hidden stuff, outlining table cells, block level elements, validation and tons of other great stuff.
i found that Firefox and IE often differ on the margins that they default to on various elements. I eventually figured this out by having it outline block-level elements and playing with the CSS.
If I recall, changing the scrollbar colors is an IE only thing (or at least used to be if that has changed). Personally I find different scrollbars as more of an invasion of my desktop environment rather and an annoyance than integration with a website. It adds extremely little to the site overall.
thanks for the help everyone, apparently i had one bracket too many ^^;
haha yeah...those pesky brackets can do it :P glad it worked out
Jim, i beg to differ on the scroll bars....if you have divs which you can imagine to look like inline tables and you have scroll bars in there (as they are fixed sized) it would look better if they were integrated to the page. Altho I do agree that the main window scrollbars changing would invade your desktop :P
Ah, iframes and webpages that insist on having content that scrolls in subwindows (divs, iframes, etc.) are a major pet peeve of mine. I can't even describe how annoying it is to have a high-res monitor and have some douchebag web designer force me to scroll around tiny boxes in a layout that takes up 10% of my screen area for absolutely no reason. If you find yourself needing that kind of thing (except on multiline text inputs in forms), you have done something wrong in the layout of the page.
Oh God, not another thread about it. No matter what kind of forum you visit, when there is a section about webdesign then there are always at least a handfull of topics where people ask these kinda things. They switched browsers and now they all of a sudden realize that they have been coding wrong the entire time along.
Good thing we still have the best source for these kinda things, the official site of the W3C. Get your code valid and test it on more browsers then just crappy IE, from NetCaptor, NetScape, Safari, Konqueror to Opera.
I think I forgot one to mention.
I appologize, Firefox, but I figured its best to ask for help than to leave the code wrong or make it worse, the only way to learn is by doing so thats what I did. I will look at other browsers too, so thanks for listing some of them.
I guess I have to bring this thread back to life.
I just tried editing the "Customize userpage:layout" of my page colors. The page that I enter the color codes, I tried the hex codes and the rgb (##,##,##) codes, and my firefox simply won't display them. I tried again using IE and it worked.
I didn't write my own code, I just used the custom page colors fields already there. Help??
Edit:
And I did remember to put the # infront of the hex codes.
Edit2:
Never mind, I found the thread that explains the who "you need to clear your cache" process. Hmm, never had to do that before....
There are some differences between IE and Firefox. I'm a bit of a web designer myself and one distinct difference I've seen so far is that Firefox doesn't seem to support scrollbar colors. Some sites have customized scrollbar colors but only shows up on IE or IE-based browsers but not on Firefox or Netscape-based browsers. Besides that, I haven't really seen any other differences.
I just ended up doing some CSS coding in the modify content page. It works.
Didn't really need all that other options anymore.
Now if only I had enough art in me to make a good header picture. Big blank white space isn't good.
I also using Firefox
it OK but sometime need plug-in
but overall , think faster than ie
i also introduce it to other MT friend if they encounter download problem
their feedback seem OK