I have some games/movies that are made into flash (swf or exe).
Is it at all possible to take these apart and take the music and images from
them?
Pardon me if this is asked somewhere else but I didn't not find any topics
helpful to my question.
I don't think you can legally. That is the purpose of seperating the swf file
and the fla file. Iff you load it in your browser and go to your Cache it is
possible though, I'll check =P.
It is not nessicarily your buisness shinta what he does with the information. We
only hope he uses it for the correct purposes. Anyway, the only way he would get
caught is if he re-distributed it.
Quote by shadowdeathIt is not
nessicarily your buisness shinta what he does with the information. We only hope
he uses it for the correct purposes. Anyway, the only way he would get caught is
if he re-distributed it.
I don't think it matters. ...It's pretty obvious that the thread author
"take the [copyrighted] music and [copyrighted] images from them"....
...I'm pretty sure this is against MT policy too, and I will report this
thread.
Quote by raptorfbI have some
games/movies that are made into flash (swf or exe).
Is it at all possible to take these apart and take the music and images from
them?
Pardon me if this is asked somewhere else but I didn't not find any topics
helpful to my question.
I really dont care about what he is or not doing with these files but I don't
intend to intrude on his reputation by involving authorities to close his thread
and make him look foolish. I really don't have a problem with him until he
starts to say I want edit exp: "weezer - no one else" and change the
beat then say it is mine.
I see a few of you are already think of the worst out of me.
Well, if you believe I'm going to do things illegal, that's your choice. I'm
just going to say that I am not.
What I wanted to do was to take apart disc one of the Type-Moon Tsukihim extra
disc so I can look at the images without having to load the flash object each
time.
You can decide whether this is ethical or not.... I think not since I don't plan
to redistribute, but if you must "report" this thread, and I'll just
have to move on. Surely, next time you should ask me first before making such
assumptions.
If you just want to have images to look at for yourself, then try playing the
flash in your browser, then right click on it and uncheck Play. If it works it
will stop the flash and you can take a screen cap, but it doesn't always work.
You could also just try to screen cap it without pausing if the images aren't
moving too fast.
Other than that, there's not much you can do...
Also, Archer79, even if s/he could open the file and extract stuff, the audio
and images are almost always low quality, unlike the scans on this site (which
are posted with out the permission of the copyright owners, and then used
without permission for walls...)
With my current experiences with using flash lets just say it blew lots and lots
of chunks. Personally it just didn't really catch on to me as well as Photoshop
or The Gimp, Linux version of photoshop for people who don't know. It was
confusing at first but even as I got the hang of it, it just really didn't work
outs.
P.S. so many moniters broken outta of frustration poor moniters
I like working in flash and I mostly do the basics of my pics there then do the
rest in photoshop.
*I* think that there MUST be a way to open an swf file and take out whatever you
want. Why?
Because flash are using a library for each picture(if not vectored) and when
doing animations in flash, If we say we move pic1 from left to right, It moves
the pic and does not make a scene like movie with only pictures and that's why
you should be able to pull it off. You can also notice that if a flash has a
picture in it, it's library size is 500x500pixels but in the animation, the
creator has shrinken it, you can still zoom in and have the pic at full quality
in the swf, but this also depends on how the swf was compiled. Security,
comprimation etc takes a huge role.
Here are some I found while googeling, havn't tried them since I'm at work but
good luck:
Just looking at Flasm like puKKa suggested, it doesn't look like the right
thing... SWF Decompiler MX by Sothink can convert SWF to FLA again. You can also
extract resources like pictures, music, etc., directly from the SWF. That's what
you want right? It should work on Flash EXEs too, but I've never tried, so I
can't guarantee it.
You can find it on the eD2k network if you want it. Not that you should, of
course... tsk tsk.
You can't really protect them. The player has to be able to read them, & the
standard is open. Macromedia make the standard, but then they publish the
details. The effect of this is that with the info in the specifications, anyone
can extract anything from them. You can't even obfusticate your ActionScript,
because it's converted to bytecode, which again is readable; it has to be.
Anything in bytecode can be converted back, & obfusticated code becomes
nicely formatted & everything.
Quote by FredGregYou can't really
protect them. The player has to be able to read them, & the standard is
open. Macromedia make the standard, but then they publish the details. The
effect of this is that with the info in the specifications, anyone can extract
anything from them. You can't even obfusticate your ActionScript, because it's
converted to bytecode, which again is readable; it has to be. Anything in
bytecode can be converted back, & obfusticated code becomes nicely
formatted & everything.
True, there are illegal ways
around things but for the purposes of MT discussion those do not exist.
No, I don't mean illegal ways, I mean the technical ability inherent in it...
just that it isn't protectable by any technical means. Sure, you can copyright
it, but that's not what I was refering to.
Edit: just thought I'd add, you can't encrypt it because it's meant to be seen,
& it's not illegal to decompile them anyway; you don't find EULAs on Flash,
only copyright.
Yep. Granted. It's still possible though, & the fact that knowledge can be
misused doesn't mean I shouldn't correct people when they're wrong. I like to
know things accurately, & I believe most people like it too.
Flash files can't be protected bar encryption, which makes them useless anyway,
because you can't play them.
I have some games/movies that are made into flash (swf or exe).
Is it at all possible to take these apart and take the music and images from them?
Pardon me if this is asked somewhere else but I didn't not find any topics helpful to my question.
you have to have the original flash files to do so the .fla files as thats what you edit
I don't think you can legally. That is the purpose of seperating the swf file and the fla file. Iff you load it in your browser and go to your Cache it is possible though, I'll check =P.
It is not nessicarily your buisness shinta what he does with the information. We only hope he uses it for the correct purposes. Anyway, the only way he would get caught is if he re-distributed it.
I don't think it matters. ...It's pretty obvious that the thread author "take the [copyrighted] music and [copyrighted] images from them".... ...I'm pretty sure this is against MT policy too, and I will report this thread.
I really dont care about what he is or not doing with these files but I don't intend to intrude on his reputation by involving authorities to close his thread and make him look foolish. I really don't have a problem with him until he starts to say I want edit exp: "weezer - no one else" and change the beat then say it is mine.
Thats all... good day.
I see a few of you are already think of the worst out of me.
Well, if you believe I'm going to do things illegal, that's your choice. I'm just going to say that I am not.
What I wanted to do was to take apart disc one of the Type-Moon Tsukihim extra disc so I can look at the images without having to load the flash object each time.
You can decide whether this is ethical or not.... I think not since I don't plan to redistribute, but if you must "report" this thread, and I'll just have to move on. Surely, next time you should ask me first before making such assumptions.
As you can tell I am on your side...
If you just want to have images to look at for yourself, then try playing the flash in your browser, then right click on it and uncheck Play. If it works it will stop the flash and you can take a screen cap, but it doesn't always work. You could also just try to screen cap it without pausing if the images aren't moving too fast.
Other than that, there's not much you can do...
Also, Archer79, even if s/he could open the file and extract stuff, the audio and images are almost always low quality, unlike the scans on this site (which are posted with out the permission of the copyright owners, and then used without permission for walls...)
With my current experiences with using flash lets just say it blew lots and lots of chunks. Personally it just didn't really catch on to me as well as Photoshop or The Gimp, Linux version of photoshop for people who don't know. It was confusing at first but even as I got the hang of it, it just really didn't work outs.
P.S. so many moniters broken outta of frustration poor moniters
I like working in flash and I mostly do the basics of my pics there then do the rest in photoshop.
*I* think that there MUST be a way to open an swf file and take out whatever you want. Why?
Because flash are using a library for each picture(if not vectored) and when doing animations in flash, If we say we move pic1 from left to right, It moves the pic and does not make a scene like movie with only pictures and that's why you should be able to pull it off. You can also notice that if a flash has a picture in it, it's library size is 500x500pixels but in the animation, the creator has shrinken it, you can still zoom in and have the pic at full quality in the swf, but this also depends on how the swf was compiled. Security, comprimation etc takes a huge role.
Here are some I found while googeling, havn't tried them since I'm at work but good luck:
Flasm
Check these forums out aswell if you feel like it:
http://www.actionscript.org
http://were-here.com
http://flashkit.com
Thank you, but remeber, one of there has already be changed to a flash EXE.
Just looking at Flasm like puKKa suggested, it doesn't look like the right thing... SWF Decompiler MX by Sothink can convert SWF to FLA again. You can also extract resources like pictures, music, etc., directly from the SWF. That's what you want right? It should work on Flash EXEs too, but I've never tried, so I can't guarantee it.
You can find it on the eD2k network if you want it. Not that you should, of course... tsk tsk.
Most flash files are protected to prevent people from stealing the images or the code.
You can't really protect them. The player has to be able to read them, & the standard is open. Macromedia make the standard, but then they publish the details. The effect of this is that with the info in the specifications, anyone can extract anything from them. You can't even obfusticate your ActionScript, because it's converted to bytecode, which again is readable; it has to be. Anything in bytecode can be converted back, & obfusticated code becomes nicely formatted & everything.
True, there are illegal ways around things but for the purposes of MT discussion those do not exist.
No, I don't mean illegal ways, I mean the technical ability inherent in it... just that it isn't protectable by any technical means. Sure, you can copyright it, but that's not what I was refering to.
Edit: just thought I'd add, you can't encrypt it because it's meant to be seen, & it's not illegal to decompile them anyway; you don't find EULAs on Flash, only copyright.
It's not illegal to decompile them but using someone else's work without permission in your own is unethical and illegal.
Yep. Granted. It's still possible though, & the fact that knowledge can be misused doesn't mean I shouldn't correct people when they're wrong. I like to know things accurately, & I believe most people like it too.
Flash files can't be protected bar encryption, which makes them useless anyway, because you can't play them.