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Cagalli: Natural or Coordinator?

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sorry, some of you may think my question is stupid but I don't know much about gundam seed.. :(

Cagalli is a natural. Her parents' are natural. But her twin bro Kira isn't... genetically modified. And remember, SEED mode are special attributes for both naturals and coordinators. Not only coordinators hav this abillity. If i' not mistaken Cagalli had here SEED mode activated once before in GD. And take note, Coordinators are Naturals....

coordinators are naturals..? ehh?? yeah, she did have her "seed mode".

Coordinators are born as their genetic code are altered.... thanks to a scientist who made himself the first coordinator.

kk, fyn.

Yeah, cagalli is a Natural. I think she went seed mode in the last few eps or soemthing ><

Quote by lianppopersorry, some of you may think my question is stupid but I don't know much about gundam seed.. :(

Like everyone else has said, Cagalli is a natural. It was in Ep 49 of Gundam Seed (just checked) that she first showed she had a seed mode ( at about the 13 min mark if you want a more exact reference point).

She is a Natural with the ability to hav "seed mode".
I love it when she does dat. ><

Quote by 632630Cagalli is a natural. Her parents' are natural. But her twin bro Kira
isn't... genetically modified. And remember, SEED mode are special
attributes for both naturals and coordinators. Not only coordinators
hav this abillity. If i' not mistaken Cagalli had here SEED mode
activated once before in GD. And take note, Coordinators are
Naturals....


yup what he said, only kira was genetic engineered, not cagalli, cagalli was born naturaly,
the "seed mode" thing, can it be some type of new gene?

Cagalli is Natural... Yuna/Jona won't want to marry her if she is a Coordinator...

I thought SEED Mode can only be access by piloting a Gundam. What da ya think??

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Quote by 632630Cagalli is a natural. Her parents' are natural. But her twin bro Kira
isn't... genetically modified. And remember, SEED mode are special
attributes for both naturals and coordinators. Not only coordinators
hav this abillity. If i' not mistaken Cagalli had here SEED mode
activated once before in GD. And take note, Coordinators are
Naturals....


yup what he said, only kira was genetic engineered, not cagalli, cagalli was born naturaly,
the &quot;seed mode&quot; thing, can it be some type of new gene?


Source: http://clynefaction.net/Lacus/Seed.php
Possibly an Alternative Meaning to SEED?!
Written By: Kira-Double

However, I propose that the theory behind SEED mode, it's true purpose, is to allow those who possess it to see possibilities (the 'future', or 'outcome'), the different ways and results of the actions taken. It is the reason why, when pilots use it, they can always win by seeing the best strategic move to make in the MS, should I fire at the enemy with the rifle? Or should I block his attack and come at him in the ensuing dust cloud with saber drawn? Another way of saying it, SEED is the gift of insight..to see as I said, different possibilities. It is also my believe that this is all triggered by a sudden surge of emotion as well. Athrun and Kira always enter SEED in the worst part of a fight and they are able to quickly analyze the situation and see the best way to win the fight, especially if they feel anger. Lacus was speaking about the war and the future of mankind when she went seed, most probably, because she saw the possibilities of a future without war and hatred and she felt intense hope. Cagalli, when she went into this mode, witnessed the deaths of the Astray pilots, I conclude, because then she finally saw what her father was trying to teach her about death and war and also her strong sadness. Also notice, where the producers decided to place the SEED animation, or 'trigger event', in the eyes! And unless we can see the possibilities of our own future, how can we expect to ascend to the next stage of evolution? Of course, this is all fan opinion and until someone from the makers officially recognize this it should be treated as such.

The
Superior
Evident
Evolutionary
Destined-factor
(S.E.E.D.)

A factor that determines the course of a species' evolution. The existence of the SEED factor has yet to be proven, and it remains a subject of intense controversy in scientific circles. But in theory, those who possess the SEED factor have the ability to advance to the next stage of human evolution - an ability unrelated to whether the carrier is a Natural or a Coordinator. That's the official defenition.

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not to me.... i cant see a thing =.=

cagalli is natural. it's been said by his father(adapted) in GD. he pointed out that Cagalli is natural, in ep 39.( i think it's 39, could be 38)

Natural. Don't bring up the SEED mode thing either. SEED is a latent ability that one is born with, regardless if you are a coordinator or natural. I'm surprised no one brought up the idea that she's a newtype.

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Quote by 632630PS: Are the images previewable?

not to me.... i cant see a thing =.=

cagalli is natural. it's been said by his father(adapted) in GD. he pointed out that Cagalli is natural, in ep 39.( i think it's 39, could be 38)

I can't see 'em too.. :(

Quote by geninlv1Natural. Don't bring up the SEED mode thing either. SEED is a latent
ability that one is born with, regardless if you are a coordinator or
natural. I'm surprised no one brought up the idea that she's a newtype.

Cagalli a Newtype...now that's a really interesting possibility, I'm surprised myself that it never crossed my mind. Kira's shown that he may possibly be a Newtype so Cagalli being one isn't such a far-off idea...

Hmm... I totally disagree though... maybe we should do a bit of history of the CE (cosmic era)
George Glenn was the scientist who discover the existance of coordinators. In fact he is the first coordinator. To become a coordinator, the genetic codes are tampered when the baby is still in the womb.(kira exception - remember ultimate coordinator??) whick means

Humans--->Naturals--->coordinators.

In other terms Coordinators are naturals and they are humans. ie. Coordinators is the subset of Naturals and they are all humans.

A newtype involves in using medication in Naturals. In GD, continuos medication. In GSD, bodies of newtypes contains highly chemical contents. (Remember Stellar when she's onboard minerva? ) Now recall the lab minerva and crew found out. Rey*, a newtype, was clouded by his memory... the horror of being guniae pigs. Both the newtypes in GD and GSD are emotionally unstable... which is why they used the hibernating chamber to erase their memories which may be an obstacle. (take stellar when she's in destroy for eg)

The only difference the newtypes in GD and GSD is the need of continuous intake of medicine.

Which means Newtypes are humans with highly chemical content and emotionaly unstable. But have we discover any of this charateristics in Cagalli? You might say Cagalli get's so emotional and cries everytime. But the reason for it is that she couldn't ORB's ideals. Her beloved nation left by her father would be overrun just like that. She's felling helpless.
Now we compare this with Stellar. Try saying the word die in front of her, she'll scream and shake. And most important of all: The will to kill and do anytihng in order to survive. This is the key to all newtypes

I was wondering th same thing today, so she is a natural...thats why theres a probelem with athrun and her...

Shes natural but she seeds.

Well the problem which arise from these two because they were from two different fronts before Athrun escapes. What i belive, Atrun wanted to protect Cagalli and never wanted to let her involved in the affairs. But that was what we can see in the beginning. When athrun returns to zaft, he's not very expose to all the facts which happen outside. For example, the sarans took over ORB or the attempted Lacus assasination. He's shrouded by the Chairman's words of peace. Then the conversation between Athrun and Kira where he learnt about the assasination and the little quarell with Cagalli. Even after this, he was still sure with the Charman's words. Then he witnessed the death of Heine. Again his MS Savior destroyed. In these events Kira manga to open Athrun's eyes and ears to the real meaning behind the chairman's words. He witnessed the fall of Destroy, then of Freedom. He recalled the chairaman's words and his Lacus-Meer scandal. He grows more suspicious of Durrandal's words every second. He reached the limit when Durrandal offered him a gundam - legend... which he refused. Then he escapes with meyrin.

Everything hat happened made Atrhun afraid to face Cagalli. For everything he had done and said. Thering, the words which scared.

As for the seed, can you refer to the first page.

Cagalli is a Natural.

Kira is a Coordinator.

Uzumi says this during the invasion of Orb.

SEED mode isn't exclusive to Coordinators only.

shes a coordinator...she also carrys the seed!^_^

The only people that I've seen with a Seed mode are: Kira, Athrun, Cagalli & Shinn.

This a quote from the Gundam Site:

http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/ce/background/glossary_misc.html#seed

Superior
Evolutionary
Element
Destined-factor
(SEED factor)

A factor that determines the course of a species' evolution. The existence of the SEED factor has yet to be proven, and it remains a subject of intense controversy in scientific circles. But in theory, those who possess the SEED factor have the ability to advance to the next stage of human evolution - an ability unrelated to whether the carrier is a Natural or a Coordinator.

---

Meaning that Naturals and Coordinators alike can go into SEED mode.

UZUMI, the former leader of Orb says that Cagalli is a Natural during the Orb Invasion. I forgot the specific episode, but he says this.

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