Isn't it sad how you never see any American-made manga? It seems to me that the
only way you can get famous as a manga artist is in Japan... *moves to Japan and
learns japanese* :T
Well, in Japan, there are mangas that contain different titles (i.e. Weekly
Jump) that could introduce new and upcoming artists to that public. However, in
the US, there is nothing really that could introduce an artist to the General
populus.
Quote by cthrinIsn't it sad how you never
see any American-made manga? It seems to me that the only way you can get famous
as a manga artist is in Japan... *moves to Japan and learns japanese*
:T
Actually there are American mangas out there three offhand is Ninja High School
by Ben Dunn released by Antartic Press, Gold Digger by Fred Perry also released
by Antartic Press and Megatokyo (www.megatokyo.com) they are very good but don't
get as good publicity like spiderman or superman.
There are actually quite a lot of amercian mangas (not comics, like spiderman,
etc.), just they aren't very popular. The thing is that usually only the best of
japanese mangas get licenced and are released to North America and Europe. There
are hundreds of crappy mangas out there. The quality isn't the same here as it
is in Japan either. However, the english manga industry is growing through
webcomics. Telephone books (Like Shounen Weekly, Ribon, etc.) is the mainstream
way of getting into the business in Japan. Selection is a lot tougher too;
webcomics can be started by anyone, whenever. Getting into Shounen Weekly is
hard. Basically, it's quality and quantity. Japan has a lot of it, and it's
better too. Not saying that english manga is crap- just I'm pretty sure that a
lot of the ones out right now would have never made it through Japan's system,
let alone be licenced. Hopefully a good manga industry will be created.
Telephone books can actually be bought in english, although it's not the same
process. It's pretty much a waste of money to get them here, since all of the
series' inside have their tankoubons (volume books) out, and new mangas aren't
published in them periodically. I've decided to go and someday publish my manga
in Japan. I prefer the fanbase over there. A lot less creepy catgirls. And lots
of amazing cosplayers.
the graphic novel (a more "mature" term to comic book?) is the
american counterpart for the japanese-bred manga. when mangas get licensed they
get christened as "graphic novels" too. never have i heard them being
called "comics".
i think b/c the style of different nationalitis ate different, so the level of
people who love manga and anime are also different...................
i think for people in North America, they think anime and manga are for kids,
and when you grow old you shouldn't be reading and watch any cartoon
stuff............... i think people in japan dont have that much ristriction
for these things, they can read manga and watch amine no matter how old they are
(I think.........~_~ ) a............ i wanna to go to
japan.................................
Quote by shugogetteni think for
people in North America, they think anime and manga are for kids, and when you
grow old you shouldn't be reading and watch any cartoon
stuff...............
not really, the comic book heroes and american graphic novels are pretty gritty
stuff for a 10-yr old. those ones usually cater to the adults but it still looks
like japanese manga are outselling them even to that age demographic. ^^;
but i wholeheartedly agree with your first comment, about styles being different
for american manga to be never be. "manga" belongs to Japan after all
too. :P
I haven't seen it mentioned but there are in a sense American manga out there as
a new company called Seven Seas is publishing books that looks just like manga
to me (is manga to me but that's a debate for another time) and has been
mistaken by a few as coming from Japan until they learn otherwise.
So I think there already is American manga out there in print and still being
published.
Quote by Dernhelmnot really, the comic
book heroes and american graphic novels are pretty gritty stuff for a 10-yr old.
those ones usually cater to the adults but it still looks like japanese manga
are outselling them even to that age demographic. ^^;
but i wholeheartedly agree with your first comment, about styles being different
for american manga to be never be. "manga" belongs to Japan after all
too. :P
i think usually they called these comic or graphic novels in america and europe,
manga is japanese word, isn't it??
I agree with what shugogetten said. The attitude towards graphic novels seems
to be different in the two nations. In America, the film industry (by film I
mean Hollywood) is much bigger than the animation industry. In Japan, it's the
other way around -- animation's the one that's developed the most. So much so
that it's even become a source of entertainment for adults (hentai). It's
really two different worlds of attitude.
With anime and manga becoming more accepted in the United States now, however,
that may change in the future. Guess we'll see...
Quote by mewtwo70607Actually there
are American mangas out there three offhand is Ninja
High School by Ben Dunn released by Antartic Press, Gold Digger by Fred
Perry also released by Antartic Press and Megatokyo (www.megatokyo.com)
they are very good but don't get as good publicity like spiderman or
superman.
I see some one else follows these titles. They've been around for over 10 years
now. And has anyone ever read Gremlin Trouble? It's very manga inspired. Then
there is the artwork that has been done by Robert DeJesus (who shows up at every
Otakon) and his wife Melissa DeJesus' art in the manga series Sokora
Refugees.
Quote by maverickmechanicDirty
Pair is also american. it dosent look it but it is
No, the Dirty Pair originated in Japan long before Dark Horse and before them
Eclipse got the license to make new comics based off the Dirty Pair series.
Dirty Pair is very much of Japanese origins.
Quote by Dernhelmnot really, the comic
book heroes and american graphic
novels are pretty gritty stuff for a 10-yr old. those ones usually
cater to the adults but it still looks like japanese manga are
outselling them even to that age demographic. ^^;
but i wholeheartedly agree with your first comment, about styles being
different for american manga to be never be. "manga" belongs to
Japan
after all too. :P
i think usually they called these comic or graphic novels in america
and europe, manga is japanese word, isn't it??
And
kindergarten is a German word, au gratin and a la mode are French terms, plaza
is a Spanish word, balcony and gondola are Italian words, tomato, coyote,
chocolate are Nahuatl words and so on and so forth.
What I don't understand, and the debate I didn't want to see start yet another
place is, how come those words are used without second thought even to the point
they have become the only word at times people think of to use for those objects
and yet people have such an issue with the word manga being "only"
from Japan?
Manga is a style it does not denote a location that something is from anymore
then the nationality of an author of a book denotes where the book had to have
first been published. I still see people as being far too limited in their
thinking for not understanding that manga is a style, the same as how the word
balcony (one again an Italian word) can be used to describe anything from a one
person wooden structure to something that might be big enough to have held the
Yalta Conference on it.
Anyway I've been in a lot of debates about this so sorry if I got carried away
but manga is a style which some have be able to create very nicely in the U.S.
and Canada, it is not a term limited to books only from one location in the
word.
Isn't it sad how you never see any American-made manga? It seems to me that the only way you can get famous as a manga artist is in Japan... *moves to Japan and learns japanese* :T
Well, in Japan, there are mangas that contain different titles (i.e. Weekly Jump) that could introduce new and upcoming artists to that public. However, in the US, there is nothing really that could introduce an artist to the General populus.
Um, I thought American-made manga were comic books...
spiderman, superman, etc?
they're old though...
Actually there are American mangas out there three offhand is Ninja High School by Ben Dunn released by Antartic Press, Gold Digger by Fred Perry also released by Antartic Press and Megatokyo (www.megatokyo.com) they are very good but don't get as good publicity like spiderman or superman.
There are actually quite a lot of amercian mangas (not comics, like spiderman, etc.), just they aren't very popular. The thing is that usually only the best of japanese mangas get licenced and are released to North America and Europe. There are hundreds of crappy mangas out there. The quality isn't the same here as it is in Japan either. However, the english manga industry is growing through webcomics. Telephone books (Like Shounen Weekly, Ribon, etc.) is the mainstream way of getting into the business in Japan. Selection is a lot tougher too; webcomics can be started by anyone, whenever. Getting into Shounen Weekly is hard. Basically, it's quality and quantity. Japan has a lot of it, and it's better too. Not saying that english manga is crap- just I'm pretty sure that a lot of the ones out right now would have never made it through Japan's system, let alone be licenced. Hopefully a good manga industry will be created. Telephone books can actually be bought in english, although it's not the same process. It's pretty much a waste of money to get them here, since all of the series' inside have their tankoubons (volume books) out, and new mangas aren't published in them periodically. I've decided to go and someday publish my manga in Japan. I prefer the fanbase over there. A lot less creepy catgirls. And lots of amazing cosplayers.
same here
Dirty Pair is also american. it dosent look it but it is
the graphic novel (a more "mature" term to comic book?) is the american counterpart for the japanese-bred manga. when mangas get licensed they get christened as "graphic novels" too. never have i heard them being called "comics".
i think b/c the style of different nationalitis ate different, so the level of people who love manga and anime are also different...................
i think for people in North America, they think anime and manga are for kids, and when you grow old you shouldn't be reading and watch any cartoon stuff............... i think people in japan dont have that much ristriction for these things, they can read manga and watch amine no matter how old they are (I think.........~_~ ) a............ i wanna to go to japan.................................
american made manga sucks
not really, the comic book heroes and american graphic novels are pretty gritty stuff for a 10-yr old. those ones usually cater to the adults but it still looks like japanese manga are outselling them even to that age demographic. ^^;
but i wholeheartedly agree with your first comment, about styles being different for american manga to be never be. "manga" belongs to Japan after all too. :P
I haven't seen it mentioned but there are in a sense American manga out there as a new company called Seven Seas is publishing books that looks just like manga to me (is manga to me but that's a debate for another time) and has been mistaken by a few as coming from Japan until they learn otherwise.
So I think there already is American manga out there in print and still being published.
i think usually they called these comic or graphic novels in america and europe, manga is japanese word, isn't it??
yeah i was being technical, hehehe, since "manga" is a japanese word. ;P
and it has spun off the "american manga".
Couldn't agree more! Like Dernhelm said "Manga belongs to Japan". And it should remain that way!!
hmmm i think american manga lets say comics its good specially from marvel
I agree with what shugogetten said. The attitude towards graphic novels seems to be different in the two nations. In America, the film industry (by film I mean Hollywood) is much bigger than the animation industry. In Japan, it's the other way around -- animation's the one that's developed the most. So much so that it's even become a source of entertainment for adults (hentai). It's really two different worlds of attitude.
With anime and manga becoming more accepted in the United States now, however, that may change in the future. Guess we'll see...
I see some one else follows these titles. They've been around for over 10 years
now. And has anyone ever read Gremlin Trouble? It's very manga inspired. Then there is the artwork that has been done by Robert DeJesus (who shows up at every Otakon) and his wife Melissa DeJesus' art in the manga series Sokora Refugees.
No, the Dirty Pair originated in Japan long before Dark Horse and before them Eclipse got the license to make new comics based off the Dirty Pair series. Dirty Pair is very much of Japanese origins.
I think that Japanesse anime is better.
And kindergarten is a German word, au gratin and a la mode are French terms, plaza is a Spanish word, balcony and gondola are Italian words, tomato, coyote, chocolate are Nahuatl words and so on and so forth.
What I don't understand, and the debate I didn't want to see start yet another place is, how come those words are used without second thought even to the point they have become the only word at times people think of to use for those objects and yet people have such an issue with the word manga being "only" from Japan?
Manga is a style it does not denote a location that something is from anymore then the nationality of an author of a book denotes where the book had to have first been published. I still see people as being far too limited in their thinking for not understanding that manga is a style, the same as how the word balcony (one again an Italian word) can be used to describe anything from a one person wooden structure to something that might be big enough to have held the Yalta Conference on it.
Anyway I've been in a lot of debates about this so sorry if I got carried away but manga is a style which some have be able to create very nicely in the U.S. and Canada, it is not a term limited to books only from one location in the word.
Hell yeah im making one lol
If it was American, It wouldnt really be Manga.