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DearS Wallpaper - Need Extraction Help!

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Hi all!
I just got the 2nd volume of DearS today in the mail from eBay and was looking at the reversed cover and saw the greatest picture to make a wallpaper for Nia the Biter (My favorite character from the show). Here's the dilemma...I have Paint Shop Pro 7 (and any computer I have can't support Photoshop and I don't have anyone I know that has Photoshop) and I can't get the picture cleaned up enough to use it for a wallpaper. This is the best I got it (I was going to upload a .psd file, but Geocities wouldn't let me). Plus, I'm trying to think of a good background to use with it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

-Kyle

P.S. Here's the unedited scan that I got it from (scanned in at 175dpi).

hmm, cute scan:)
If you need help with extraction, there are a few tutorials around, follow the link below for one, i use a different method but just look around to find a method u like

http://www.tutorialkit.com/tutorials/Extraction-Tutorial-18733.html

hmm, i've never used paintshop, but if you can't use similar methods to the photoshop methods, just zoom in and erase, it'll take time tho

Quote by BiNumber3hmm, cute scan:)
If you need help with extraction, there are a few tutorials around, follow the link below for one, i use a different method but just look around to find a method u like

http://www.tutorialkit.com/tutorials/Extraction-Tutorial-18733.html

Ah...but you see I don't have Photoshop, and I just posted the unedited version above. It's a cute scan, huh? I loved it too when I opened the DVD case. And that's the problem too, I've done as much as I can without going crazy (but I'd like to make it a wall!).

well, if you want i can extract it for you, though i won't have time till thursday

Quote by BiNumber3well, if you want i can extract it for you, though i won't have time till thursday

Hey, I took your advice and spent quite a while touching up the image - there was parts I took out as best as I could - see the finished .jpg (110kb) here. I think it took about 2+ hours (and a lot of shuffling of music on the computer).

Now, the question is to you fellow MTr's...what would be a good background to use with this Nia scan? Remember, I have Paint Shop Pro 7, so any Photoshop tricks may not work (actually, that might knock out almost everyone on here, really...). I actually have quite a few brushes that I found from brushes by pange that I've used on previous wallpapers. Thanks again!

I think the extraction still needs a bit of work. The edges are a bit rough and you didnt seem to get everything. Sorry but I think its crucial to get the extraction right before you look at the background. If you want I will try to help you with the extraction as i have time too ^_^*


OK found some time ^_^* Hope it helps
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Kuzoku/nia-dears-vol2edited.jpg

Quote by KuzokuI think the extraction still needs a bit of work. The edges are a bit rough and you didnt seem to get everything. Sorry but I think its crucial to get the extraction right before you look at the background. If you want I will try to help you with the extraction as i have time too ^_^*


OK found some time ^_^* Hope it helps
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Kuzoku/nia-dears-vol2edited.jpg

OH WOW! Kuzoku, you're the greatest! Well, as you kinda read in the above posts, I don't have the capability or the money for Photoshop, plus the very top post was what I started out with, and that took at least close to an hour before I gave up. Then I got help from you fellow MTr's, and then spent two hours trying my hardest to figure out which pixels go with the image or with the rest of the scan. I wish Paint Shop Pro would do extractions easier *sigh*.

By the way, it's recommended that you use Photoshop because the tutorial I have provided is for Photoshop users. You can find a trial version by searching for Download Adobe Photoshop on google. This is a sure way to get the best extraction possible when extracting scans for wallpapers. It was a tutorial that I found, but it was enhanced by me a bit more. I have used this technique several times, and it produces quite some desiring effects. ^_^

- Click the extraction tool you want to use. Never use the magic wand tool for extraction as that may leave behind white jagged edges, not to mention that if you're extracting a scan from a multi-colored background or a multi-part background, the magic wand will not be able to pick up the whole outline. Polygonal lasso tool is effective, but you may not be able to take breaks especially if you have a screensaver set. Pen tool is very effective to adjust the smoothness of a curve, not to mention that you may take breaks in between.
- Make sure that you zoom into the scan at about 300% to 500%. The larger your zoom is, the more accurate you will be on tracing the outline. It will be virtually impossible to make an exceptional extraction when extracting at 100% zoom.
- Start your extraction by tracing over the middle to outer edge of the outline. If you're using the polygonal lasso tool, before you extract, set the feather radius to 1 pixel so that your scan will be able to blend in with your background better. If you're using the pen tool, adjust each point accordingly by clicking on a point of the outline and fixing the smoothness of the curve by holding down your left click on the mouse.
- If you're using the polygonal lasso, after extraction, if you used the make new selection or add to selection peripheral on top, you may simply copy the selected area and paste it in a new project. If you used subtract from selection, you may easily delete everything around the scan, then you may copy the scan to a new project. If you're using the pen tool, after extraction, you must right click and select Make Selection. Feather at a radius of 1 pixel and select the add to selection option box. Copy the selected area into a new project.
- If there are still areas of the scan that need to be extracted out, repeat the extraction steps above, except make sure that you use the add to selection option instead so that you may delete the excess areas.

Now that I got the image the way that I wanted it (from Kuzoku)...I downloaded Photoshop CS2 to my roommate's computer (I'm surprised it took it on a 2.4gHz Celeron with 256mb of RAM). I tried myself to extract the image as the tutorial SilentMasamune (and BiNumber3 also) gave above, but it wasn't working. So I ditched that idea and decided to work on a background. I played with many different filters on many different colors to see which would work. I got a neat one on the orange colored part of Nia's clothes (with the cloud or mosaic filter and a white background), but what I'm asking is the one I have here a little better or should I try it with the orange color instead? Or have a completely different background all together? Gah...this is so confusing.

EDIT: Took out the orange colored one afterwards...I didn't like it after I previewed it on my computer.

The extraction is much, much better. Did you use my extraction tutorial above? The one with the orange background looks too simple though because the effect you used is quite obvious. You ended up using the wind filter, rendering of clouds, the crystallize filter, and the find edges filter (I think I'm right, but correct me on this). The pink background seems as if you put more effort into that design and I recommend it well since the colors seem to match too. It's still simple, but it checks out more than the orange background checks out. The biggest improvement was your extraction, I'm very happy to say. If you keep at it, then you will do just fine in making future wallpapers. ^_^

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