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I'm posting this to ask: What does the community here think of suicide?

Right now, depending on myself, I want to do it, I don't think that I would be missed, I'd be doing good. So I don't see it as selfish, I would also go somewhere that I couldn't be found to save people the pain of seeing a dead body. I mean I know there'd be a week long time where a very small group of people would be sad, but they'd get over it.

I have very good reasons for giving up on life, I've put a lot of thought into this.

Yes, there are some good things out there, I love anime, games, music, movies, the problem here is, what 's the point of all this, like having a ton of DVD's including anime, or well built instruments to play music, if there's nobody to share it with? What I mean is, I have no friends, I've tried to make friends everywhere I go, online, work, though family etc. It's all the same, I'd phone people, they'd always be "busy" whenever I call(if they didn't have caller display, and if they did, they wouldn't answer it) I email people, or PM them, nothing ever comes back. I'm always told that I'm a good person, but if that's so true, why do I not have any friends? I use to think that I was trustworthy, loyal, fair, but people don't see it, so I no longer see it. They always say, a life without friends, is no life at all, it's true.

Another reason is that there's so much injustice going on, people who do terrible things and getting away with it. Here, where I live, four teens beat a man to death on a bus, nobody did a thing to help, the driver did nothing. Now the four teens who killed this guy are out on bail, and there where no consequences for the driver or the passengers, where's the justice? This is completely unfair and disgusting. Why should I continue to live if this kind of mockery happens? Considering that I get "eyed" by police or security where ever I go like I'm the bad guy and I've never done anything wrong, then they let killers go free.

Basically, evil always wins and I'm tired of seeing it, or hearing about it. If iwas dead it would no longer matter, if life is a game, it's a crappy game and I'd never buy it.

Also, I'm sorry if I come off a little melodramatic.

  • gwater
  • Mute Member
  • 2y 28wk ago

15 Things You Probably Never Knew or Thought About

1. At least 5 people in this world love you so much they would die for you.

2. At least 15 people in this world love you in some way.

3. The only reason anyone would ever hate you is because they
want to be just like you.

4. A smile from you can bring happiness to anyone, even if they
don't like you.

5. Every night, SOMEONE thinks about you before they go to sleep.

6. You mean the world to someone.

7. If not for you, someone may not be living.

8. You are special and unique .

9. Someone that you don't even know exists loves you.

10. When you make the biggest mistake ever, something good comes from it.

11. When you think the world has turned its back on you,
take a look: you most likely turned your back on the world.

12. When you think you have no chance of getting what you want,
you probably won't get it, but if you believe in yourself, probably, sooner
or later, you will get it.

13. Always remember the compliments you received. Forget about
the rude remarks.

14. Always tell someone how you feel about them; you will feel
much better when they know.

15. If you have a great friend, take the time to let them know that they are great.

A Minute:

They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to
appreciate them, a day to love them, but then an entire life
to forget them.Take the time... to live and love.

Hope you enjoy it :)
here's another one

MOMENTS IN LIFE

There are moments in life when you miss someone
so much that you just want to pick them from
your dreams and hug them for real!

When the door of happiness closes, another opens;
But often times we look so long at the
Closed door that we don't see the one,
Which has been opened for us

Don't go for looks; they can deceive.
Don't go for wealth; even that fades away.
Go for someone who makes you smile,
Because it takes only a smile to
Make a dark day seem bright.
Find the one that makes your heart smile.

Dream what you want to dream;
Go where you want to go;
Be what you want to be,
Because you have only one life
And one chance to do all the things
You want to do.

May you have enough happiness to make you sweet
Enough trials to make you strong,
Enough sorrow to keep you human and
Enough hope to make you happy.

The happiest of people don't necessarily
Have the best of everything;
They just make the most of
Everything that comes along their way.

The brightest future will always
Be based on a forgotten past;
You can't go forward in life until
You let go of your past failures and heartaches.

When you were born, you were crying
And everyone around you was smiling.
Live your life so at the end,
You're the one who is smiling and everyone
Around you is crying.

Don't count the years - count the memories


:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

F A M I L Y

I ran into a stranger as he passed by,
"Oh excuse me please" was my reply.

He said, "Please excuse me too;
I wasn't watching for you."

We were very polite, this stranger and I.
We went on our way and we said goodbye.

But at home a different story is told,
How we treat our loved ones, young and old.

Later that day, cooking the evening meal,
My son stood beside me very still.

When I turned, I nearly knocked him down.
"Move out of the way," I said with a frown.

He walked away, his little heart broken.
I didn't realize how harshly I'd spoken.

While I lay awake in bed,
God's still small voice came to me and said,

"While dealing with a stranger,
common courtesy you use,
but the family you love, you seem to abuse.

Go and look on the kitchen floor,
You'll find some flowers there by the door.

Those are the flowers he brought for you.
He picked them himself: pink, yellow and blue.

He stood very quietly not to spoil the surprise,
you never saw the tears that filled his little eyes."

By this time, I felt very small,
And now my tears began to fall.

I quietly went and knelt by his bed;
"Wake up, little one, wake up," I said.

"Are these the flowers you picked for me?"
He smiled, "I found 'em, out by the tree.

I picked 'em because they're pretty like you.
I knew you'd like 'em, especially the blue."

I said, "Son, I'm very sorry for the way I acted today;
I shouldn't have yelled at you that way."
He said, "Oh, Mom, that's okay.
I love you anyway."

I said, "Son, I love you too,
and I do like the flowers, especially the blue."

FAMILY
Are you aware that if we died tomorrow, the company
that we are working for could easily replace us in
a matter of days.
But the family we left behind will feel the loss
for the rest of their lives.

And come to think of it, we pour ourselves more
into work than into our own family,
an unwise investment indeed,
don't you think?
So what is behind the story?

Do you know what the word FAMILY means?
FAMILY = (F)ATHER (A)ND (M)OTHER (I) (L)OVE (Y)OU

::P.e.A.c.E.::......that's Protect.enjoy.Adore.cry.Escape.............(...) you enjoy reading :D and had lessen your problems....don't worry, you'll overcome those...just remember this "In the end of the tunnel, there's always light"
By the way, if you wanna be friends with me....great! :D

I know this may sound silly, but ... there are people struggling out there, just to live. For another single breath filled with freedom. There are people dying even when they deserve something better. People are being killed, people are being hurt ... and you live. That's why everytime when I think about stuff like suicide ... those people come to my mind. I know it's hard ... and it will always be hard, trust me. But it's worth it, definitely. Don't give up, ayanesboyfriend.

i know people who think like that
they think there is no meaning of life
but there is
it is to acheive your goals
its kinda like a challenge
and what gwater said was true

I am idiot at convincing someone, yet I'm not an excellent poet like gwater. But sometimes I think the same like you, that I'm all alone, without any friends (I just have a difficulty in making friends) and always realize that there's still my family. And if that's not enough, I can still think that there's The Great Father above... Who says life's easy? And who says life's friendly toward you? The world is getting evil and evil each day, not only to you, but to me as well. Can you tell the ratio between good news and bad news in the newspaper? In my place, they can easily kill one another in the name of religion and the community are very discriminating us the minorities. As the result, wherever I go, what I hear is bad thing about us.

Pal, I know it's hard, not having friends, but at least you can think of us MTers here as your friends, OK? Simple, create an interesting thread, and you'll find many replies, ranging from serious to funny. If you want to lament 'bout something, just write it here! That's what the Lamentation and Family & Friends are for, right?

One final word, never give up! Don't worry be happy! And of course, don't ever think about commiting suicide! The Lord is the Only One who has that right... And more, even if you think that no one cares of you, there's always some people who will cry if you die. Stay cool, endure it all, and become a true champion of this life!

If im not mistaken i think there was a thread about this already?
Or am i just imagining it?

I think well it's very personal just like Hell. Back when I was young the only think I wanted to do was end my life you know just to stop all of the pain that never seemed to end. But then I started to remember...not only this life but the lives I had lived before and the ones I threw myself out of and realized that if I do end my life the hell I would go to is not the fire and brimstone type rather I would return to the life exactly as it was when I cut it sort. That was enough to give me pause and keep living even if it was torture and hell.

I understand and appretiate what all of you are saying, and I know people that do love me, but can barely stand me, they'd feel bad but they'd get over it. I'm also quite sure most wouldn't care, some even happy if I was to depart. Sometimes I'm amazed that I'm still going.

Now, I'm not trying to contaminate this place with negativity, or ruin someone's day, or scare people, and I know there are those who have it harder then me, but they have more to live for. With me, I know I wouldn't cause a lot of fuss, not for a worn out boy like me anyways.

I agree, the world is not fair, it can be harsh, there are those who do have it harder, people dying of starvation, these wars that happen, children living only for a few days after being born. The bottom line is, it all doesn't have to happen, what disgusts me is that there are those who get stupidly rich off these wars, as people kill other, innocent civilians. Others get rich from criminal activity and corruption, while hard working people, from the person that serves your burger at the drive through to that surgeon saving lives will never triumph the way evil does.

Now I'm no conspiracy thearist, but the simpliest way I can put it, these monsters out there, these evils, ward lords, drug lords criminals gain, profit, consume at all of our expense.

Maybe I'm thinking about it to hard, but my problems go beyond this run of the mill selfish, "oh poor me" tendencies. As cheesy as it sounds, I wish I had all the powers of the world, real, fictional, basically, any anime, comic, cartoon, movie, book fable, poem based characters powers. It would be a great feeling to walk up to a gang banging drugger who is so sure of his power and superiority only for him to realize, that his gun, or whatever weapon he carries, does nothing to effect me, and to tell him his group's tyranny is over and that honest people no longer need to fear him. I have researched criminals involved in organized crime, they're bullies.

It aggravates me hearing about all of this because, if we all really think it all over, the world's problems, they don't need to happen, it's all because a group of people who have enough wealth to last for 100 families to live comfortably(I'm talking steak, SUV, large house lifestyle) feel that they need more, and the sad thing is, many of them didn't truly earn their wealth, they aquired it by the blood of the innocent.

The world is harsh, but it doesn't have to be the poor excuse tha tit is, but at the same time it doesn't have to be a Ned Flanders lala land either.

I want my explanation to be direct....

Suicide is the fastest ticket to hell...If you had problems, you can still fix it if you're still living but if you kill yourself, you will never had the chance to fix your life again. Remember we had only 1 life....

I think everyone has had thoughts of suicide and thought that no one would think anyone would care, but in reality there are people, whether we are willing to see that or not. Those people that do care will continue to for a long while. But they will not mourn forever because that would never be healthy. And suicide over something like is harsh, evil place? Won't suicide just add to evils in the world? And it's just weak thing to do in general, though I disagree of it being a "ticket to hell" as someone else says it. Death would not solve anything and instead of looking at the evils as "woe is me, the world is like this", then maybe you should try to use your life to better this world, instead of running away from it.

I don't think one should commit suicide.

There is always hope in life, no matter how dire your situation may be. Of course, there are some people out there who have definitely gone through worse than me, so I can't speak for them. But there's always hope, regardless.

About injustice; it will always exist in this world. (at least currently, anyway.) But there will be justice too. Of course, there are rich people who earn money legally as well as many who don't. But if we are not in a position of authority, we may not be able to do much to help. Im not saying that we should do nothing, though.

Anyway, I hope that you will not commit suicide or do anything of the sort. Sucide is like running away from our problems, and life, even one life, is priceless. I totally agree with PF-sama; death would not solve anything - we should indeed try to use our life to better this world. Of course, we should know our own limits too.

Once again, I see what you're saying, all of you.

I know my death wouldn't solve anything, but, when a game your playing on your console of choice sucks, what do you do? Some of us walk up cursing about what a rip off it is, then shut it off. Killing myself won't destroy famine, or put evil where it belongs, but seriously, do I have to sit around and put up with it and the problems that already exist in my life?

What I'm getting at here is I don't want people to mourn me or feel bad about me, like I said, this isn't a run of the mill, oh, poor me problem, yes, I have a lot of personal issues, and they're killing me by the minute, my family has changed, ever since my mother passed on, the things that made them the kind people they were is gone. I'd never want my remains found, I'd be missing.

The thing that I'm saying in my last post is, the world is going to hell, innocent people are dying, and it really doesn't have to be that way. It is because of somebody's greed, does one person really need that much wealth? Give any average, hard working person a small fraction of that and they'd never have to work again, they could retire, get a nice normal house, raise a family and live well with no financial worries. Now, I'm not a raging commie, there are wealthy people who have worked hard for what they have, people who taken a risk and made a small shop or restaurant into a billion dollar franchise. These people are amazing, they aquired what they have without others dying to fuel their profits, they, knew what they where doing and they were lucky too.

Yes, no matter how great the world can be made, people will always have bad days, it happens. But the richest, most powerful people in the world continue to thrive on this death of innocent people, it's how they make they're money. I'm not blowing hot air at anybody either, I've seen documentries about this sort of thing. It's really disturbing, and these profiteers are sick people, and here I am feeling guilty about taking an extra five minutes during break at work last week.

Also, I don't believe people should just be given free money. I'm not expecting someone to come up to me and say", things don't look good for you, I feel bad for you, here, take this." I don't want it, also, money wouldn't solve my problems, it mostly causes problems, as you all have heard be ranting about.

I'm not trying to get sympathy from people, or come off like a whiner, but what sucks is, this evil in our world, this cancer, will never be cured, and we have the cure, it doesn't have to be this way. And I thank you all of you for your thoughts right now.

and i suppose you don't love your girlfriend.

merged: 04-01-2006 ~ 06:42am
i could NEVER get over losing you, james.

well... it's not fun...

what stopped me from doing it was *doubt*

I'm alive for what reason? Why am I, specifically *I*, here? I'm really selfish though, that's what we all are... don't lie to yourself and say that your influence is not of your own will, that's what most don't see nor understand. We are all selfish, self-focused, even when we help others.

You'll die one day naturally anyway, what's the point of ending it early?

Suicide is selfish.

I first displayed suicidal tendencies when I was 11 years old and just starting 6th grade. Junior high/middle school was cruel to me, and I wanted to end it. Something, however, always kept me from killing myself, and it was probably my cat, because he's my best friend and I didn't want him to be alone.

I started high school when I started 9th grade, and that was the year I started marching band. Talk about a life-saver. I had friends, a purpose, and something to be good at. Suicide didn't take up much space in my head then. After my grandfather died in 2003 (just before I started my junior year) I reverted back to my old ways. My yearly physical at the pediatritian's office changed that. My pediatritian is a wonderful woman, easy to talk to, and she didn't call me a liar like the other doctors at the clinic did. I told her what was going on, that I'd been suicidal since I was 11, everything. She told me to see a shrink, then she made me promise to live.

Since that promise, I've met a lot of people who care about me, people who don't care, and I've realized just how much I mean to the people in my life. I also know that I'd hurt a lot of people if I broke my promise and killed myself.

You're a very selfish, ungrateful person if you want to kill yourself. To say it's not selfish just proves how ignorant you are. Your family will miss you, despite whatever you think. Your friends will miss you too.

Take my advice: LIVE.

I know how what you're talking about, I feel the same, but when i get that thought, the thought of commiting suicide, i thibk about the good things in life, i think about the ones who will miss me, a human or an animal, people are selfish, people are blinded by stupidity, everybody is whether you notice it or not, everybody has problems, some more serious than others, some you can't even imagine, the world is corrupted with darkness and evil, but it also has light and good in it, you just have to realise it, you've forgotten, you need to remember. The world is always gonna be this way, it's out of control, yes, but you can help change that. If you committe suiside it won't do good, it will only cause problems, people will cry, someone loves you, many people love you, you just forgot, you know they do, but you've forgotten, think back, think of all your good times, and think of the future, all the good times to come, look forward to it, it's exciting. Die trieing, don't give up, when it's your time to die, you will, and it will be a good time, you will be happy, as they say, when you're about to die, your life flashes infront of your eyes, i believe it its true, and when it happens to you, if you keep on trying, your life, your memories, will flash infront of your eyes, and you'll remember all the good and sad, tuff and easy, crying and laughing times, all the times you fought, you'll be a hero, in many peoples eyes, you fought you won, even thogh you died, you tried, you fought, you're a hero, you made it in this world, one of the hardest things, you'll be proud, you'll be happy, so don't give up keep on trying. Their are the rich who have fought and the ones who haven't their are the poor who've fought to make it, and those who didn't, it'sthe way the world is, but there's a reason it's like this, there's a reason you're alive, it's all for a good reason, don't forget it. Everybody's hurting inside, some on the outside, everybody, in the inside, truely feel sad, like a loner or worse, everybody's a crying angel, and our wings will fly someday, as long as we keep on trying. Don't forget, don't regret, live life to your fulliest, trust me you won't regret it.
I wish you the best, don't give up, even though i don't know you, i know you're a good person, everybody is, at least in the inside, even if they do terrible thing. ^-^ with much care,
-Crying Angel

I'm a bit lazy so I won't read all the long long posts above. I've already had the second post in a chain mail and it is rather encouraging. :) But I think the people who commit suicide are absoulute cowards. They were people who did not value life and people who don't vaule life are pathetic. They think by killing themselves, everything's solved. They think that they are the only person getting hurt and overall, they are selfish. They don't think about the people they are hurting and they don't take responsibility. No one deserves to die and no one's making the world a better place by dying. Unless of course, they're people who shoots people's heads off with a gun or something.

i cant really give u an opinion knowing that the word "suicide" popped up in my head more than advertisements on the net. living with it for 7 years made me even more miserable. but something told me not yet so i decided 2 stop thinking about it and just live............even more miserable. but now im trying 2 find little things that gets stress off my mind. here's a few:

1.playing games
2.surfing the net
3.listening 2 music

and so far those are the only things i can find. i'm just trying 2 ignore stress(not working). anyway try and find reasons 2 live and the suicide thought shold go away. after that's gone all that's left is the depression(don't ask me to help u with that cause i cant even help myself about that). anyway stress is a part of life so if u can't get past the depression part, u won't be able 2 see what the rest of life has 2 offer. i wonder what's ahead of my life............

Technically my school had a fellow classmate commit suicide. Although it is painful I really hate those inconsiderate bastards who used it as a excuse to get out of class. The point here is your suicide will have little effect in the world as we humans didn't even last half as long as the planet did. You will merely be swept away by time. The little effect it has will either 1. hurt people or 2. people using it to get out of something. The after effects are also painful because your parents will 1. leave your stuff there or 2. move on and move your stuff out donating it or selling it. well of course after planning and doing your funeral. The path you carved is of pain and weakness. Hope this stabbed into your head because if you planned to suicide it better be one in guns blazing or a big boom at the end.

Note:(that last sentence is not to inspire psychopathic rampage against society unless you declared war on it w/e.)

why don't you love me as much as anime.

Why would you want to prove your worst enemies in life right by doing the ultimate loser act to yourself? Why not do the exact opposite of what they expect of you, even if you have to drag yourself kicking and screaming into that mindset that refuses to allow the negative input from world around you to run and therefore ruin your life. Who are they to tell you who you are and what you will be? Don't let them do to you as they've tried and failed miserably to do to me. Don't let them destroy your faith in your own potential. Sure I've had more than my fair share of abuse heaped upon me by others and thoughts of ending it all without a second thought, but I've perservered. I've soldiered on, like a Warhammer 40000 Grey Knight Terminator Space Marine, unstoppable within my inner self, through all the Chaos and Turmoil that life in general and thoughtless, pathetic people in particular have thrown at me. I did not let them stop me from living my life on my terms and neither should you. Take Heart! Be Strong! Fear not! Go forth and Conquer the Universe, little Warrior! HUUURRRAAAOOORRR!

well everyone is forgotten or 'gotten over' after awhile. a no, suicide is never selfish, it is more selfish of those who look upon those who commit suicide as selfish. ultimately it is your decision. but do think more about it before you make such a decision. do not ever think of yourself as a matyr. extremely melodramatic. i guess i'm tired of this question, whether or not i should commit suicide. why ask? just do it or don't do it. what a way to die or live eh? in doubt of ones own decisions. i've never been in your situation, but i have thought of suicide as a philosophical conclusion and concept. but as i caught a glimpse above. your smile, even though you might not know the person, to another means quite a bit, and really has a profound impact on the receiver of such a gesture. and honestly, being sad is just too much effort and is no fun. i play with mega-blocks. in fact i just got another bag today, i'm a little peeved that there are some absolutely useless pieces in the bag, but i'm excited to use my old ones and new ones together to build something bigger and better than i've built before. which reminds me. i made, well it was some sort of animal or insect. it had six legs with giant feets. a long skinny body and a scorpion like tail. it had a bird like head and had a little spike on its back. i had placed it down in a venue on campus and watched people as they walked on by. during that day there was some odd thing with a bunch of middle school or high school kids. one girl happened to walk by as i was setting it down. she later came up to it and placed a piece of paper on it that said "so pretty much, i love you, you made my day." at it was really sweet. got quite a kick out of it. but then the same day i was late for work, and i hadn't had lunch and got a rather nasty headache by the time i got home, and the bus was terrible, and my roomies went to a movie and didn't even ask if i wanted to go. and i ran out of chocolate soy milk. but despite the bad, there was good. and that single, tiny large thing that that girl did made my day as well. you just need to keep an open mind eh? cheers and chin up. watch charlottes web, or all dogs go to heaven. great movies, and jungle book. what a classic. cheers again friend. cheers all the time.

Of all of the twenty six people that jumped off of the Golden Gate bridge and survived, not one of them didn't regret the choice after they jumped.
Aside from some people with a painful, terminal illness, I think suicide is one of the most foolish, short sighted, naive mistakes possible, and it is a shame that such a childish mistake is fatal.
With all of the endless possibilities of life in this world, how can you say that none of them are worth it?
Though I do feel that for many, by the time they actually commit suicide, that it isn't even about depression anymore as much as it is a obsession with death, which
can be a harder problem to solve than just depression.
But where does the obesession come from? Depression? perhaps, but not always.
The people I have known who have commited suicide I truly believe it was that obsession that they didn't want to let go of that killed them.
It's not just your life, suicide creates a wound that will never completely heal in everyone who knows you, regardless of how they felt about you, it doesn't matter if it is reasonable, or fair, it's the truth.
Aside from inflicting your pain ten fold on those around you, how can you complain about the injustice in the world and threaten to throw your life away instead of being willing to die trying to make it a better place?

Let's just put it in a few words...

"Suicide is a permanent solution to a temprorary problem"

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