well i have a question, i personaly hate zealots like completly, i firmly
believe that all true zealots need to be destroyed as in hunted out and killed.
the worst things in history were brought about largly by zealots and there is
pretty much nothing that anyone could say to me that would convince me
otherwise.
i feel their the closest thing to pure evil there is, as there is no to far to
go when it comes to completing their zealotous goals.
so if zealots are evil is it evil to destroy them and does my unwavering belief
in their wrongness make me a zealot aswell?
What do you have against the Protoss? What till Tassader and Fenix hear this.
Haha j/k.
Modi let's replace "zealot" with some other word and see what
happens?
"well i have a question, i personaly hate Jews like completly, i firmly
believe that all true Jews need to be destroyed as in hunted out and killed. the
worst things in history were brought about largly by Jews and there is pretty
much nothing that anyone could say to me that would convince me otherwise.
i feel their the closest thing to pure evil there is, as there is no to far to
go when it comes to completing their Jewish goals."
so if Jews are evil is it evil to destroy them and does my unwavering belief in
their wrongness make me a Jew aswell?"
Now you yourself are beginning to sound like a crazy-ass zealot don't you? It's
all a matter of what words you use. Everyone has the right to their own beliefs
just as long they don't go all crazy and start harrassing others because of
their beliefs.
Besides "evil" is relative. It is something humans came up with to
explain why bad things happen to them.
Now you yourself are beginning to sound like a crazy-ass zealot don't you? It's
all a matter of what words you use. Everyone has the right to their own beliefs
just as long they don't go all crazy and start harrassing others because of
their beliefs.
Besides "evil" is relative. It is something humans came up with to
explain why bad things happen to them.
no its not just a matter of what word i use, jews havent ever captured an
entired city and then slaughtered its entire civie populace just to increase
their leaders reputation. and neither is evil such a mundane thing while yes the
term can be relative the fact is somone willing to devastate entire countrys in
the name of a cause he or she is so completly dominated by in everyway
regardless of weither that countrys ppl would have even given resistance or not
IS evil.
though i concede in the above mentioned example there could be an extenuating
circumstance such as say some sort of unstopable plauge was decimating that
countrys populace the act would be made for the greater good of all mankind,
however with the state of current society that kind of thing would never happen
what with (the americans anyways) inability to do anything that might go agianst
the opinion of the general mass even if apart from the masses the overall
induvidual WOULD be willing to wipe that country out, therefore the only way
somone would do such a thing would be as a war time type of act that would be
viewed incontrovertably by the rest of the world as evil
Quote by CyberDragoonModi let's
replace "zealot" with some other word and see what
happens?
Heh you can't just go replacing words to make him look crazy. Replace it with
the word "nazi" or "terrorist" and he looks incredibly
reasonable.
Let's try it.
"well i have a question, i personaly hate nazis like completly, i firmly
believe that all true nazis need to be destroyed as in hunted out and killed.
the worst things in history were brought about largly by nazis and there is
pretty much nothing that anyone could say to me that would convince me
otherwise.
i feel their the closest thing to pure evil there is, as there is no to far to
go when it comes to completing their nazish (right adj. for nazi?)
goals."
o if nazis are evil is it evil to destroy them and does my unwavering belief in
their wrongness make me a nazi aswell?"
No it still sounds pretty crazy to me. I mean after all a lot of people people
who were considered part of the nazi party of Germany were simply poor lower
class folk who were looking for a leader that could get them out of the economic
depression WWI brought. Hitler was using the Jews as a scapegoat and as a focal
point. Humans tend to band together and unite if they all have somehting to hate
together. Also some nazis definitely had to have converted to protect
themselves. After all to be a jewish sympathizer meant death.
As for the Jews never doing anything wrong that's quite incorrect. The most
famous example is the crucifiction of Jesus (assuming that DID happen). The Jews
have hands just as bloodly as the rest of the religons.
"in relation to the Israel-Palestine conflict, so has the increase of
Jewish atrocities in the name of a higher cause. It reached its peak in the
mid-1980s to mid-1990s with the maiming and murder of Muslim non-combatants by
the Jewish Underground, the massacre of Muslims in prayer by Barukh Goldstein,
and Yigal Amir's assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin."
Of course I'm not saying all Jews are bad. That's not my point. I'm merely
making the point that not all of them are GOOD. I'm trying to show that the
world is not black and white.
Quote by Modihowever with the state of
current society that kind of thing would never happen what with (the americans
anyways) inability to do anything that might go agianst the opinion of the
general mass
I beg to differ on this point. Take Bush's "domestic spying" program
and other various political blunders he has had. He's lied about the weapons
capability that they had. He lied about Saddam's connection to Al-Queda. He is
trying to take info from Google. He has abused his power by overriding a number
of laws using his presidential signing statements. The most famous of which is
one about the torture laws.
"When President Bush signed the new law, sponsored by Senator McCain,
restricting the use of torture when interrogating detainees, he also issued a
Presidential signing statement. That statement asserted that his power as
Commander-in-Chief gives him the authority to bypass the very law he had just
signed."
Is this stupid or what?
Obviously this was against public opinion and yet he still did it and continues
to do it. Public opinion says that Americans want to pull out of Iraq. Have we
pulled out?
Let me tell you something about history and how the world views it.
On the morning of August 6, 1945 a bomb was dropped on a city, followed three
days later by the detonation of another over a different city. The number of
casulties from the explosions were high. "The best approximation is that
the number is huge and falls between 100,000 and 200,000."[1] Most of the
casualties were civilians.
Sounds evil doesn't it? The two cities were Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Let's not
forget the radiation casulties as well. Does the world view the US
incontrovertably as evil for this? No. On the contrary many support the use of
atomic weapons while others do not. Do you? Maybe, maybe not.
In my personal view war is a great waster. A waste of life. A waste of money. A
waste of time. Is war justified for certain causes? Maybe.
well i have a question, i personaly hate zealots like completly, i firmly believe that all true zealots need to be destroyed as in hunted out and killed. the worst things in history were brought about largly by zealots and there is pretty much nothing that anyone could say to me that would convince me otherwise.
i feel their the closest thing to pure evil there is, as there is no to far to go when it comes to completing their zealotous goals.
so if zealots are evil is it evil to destroy them and does my unwavering belief in their wrongness make me a zealot aswell?
Not quite. Only if you actively pursue destroying all the zealots would you then be one yourself. Right now you're just super pissed at them I guess.
What do you have against the Protoss? What till Tassader and Fenix hear this. Haha j/k.
Modi let's replace "zealot" with some other word and see what happens?
"well i have a question, i personaly hate Jews like completly, i firmly believe that all true Jews need to be destroyed as in hunted out and killed. the worst things in history were brought about largly by Jews and there is pretty much nothing that anyone could say to me that would convince me otherwise.
i feel their the closest thing to pure evil there is, as there is no to far to go when it comes to completing their Jewish goals."
so if Jews are evil is it evil to destroy them and does my unwavering belief in their wrongness make me a Jew aswell?"
Now you yourself are beginning to sound like a crazy-ass zealot don't you? It's all a matter of what words you use. Everyone has the right to their own beliefs just as long they don't go all crazy and start harrassing others because of their beliefs.
Besides "evil" is relative. It is something humans came up with to explain why bad things happen to them.
no its not just a matter of what word i use, jews havent ever captured an entired city and then slaughtered its entire civie populace just to increase their leaders reputation. and neither is evil such a mundane thing while yes the term can be relative the fact is somone willing to devastate entire countrys in the name of a cause he or she is so completly dominated by in everyway regardless of weither that countrys ppl would have even given resistance or not IS evil.
though i concede in the above mentioned example there could be an extenuating circumstance such as say some sort of unstopable plauge was decimating that countrys populace the act would be made for the greater good of all mankind, however with the state of current society that kind of thing would never happen what with (the americans anyways) inability to do anything that might go agianst the opinion of the general mass even if apart from the masses the overall induvidual WOULD be willing to wipe that country out, therefore the only way somone would do such a thing would be as a war time type of act that would be viewed incontrovertably by the rest of the world as evil
Heh you can't just go replacing words to make him look crazy. Replace it with the word "nazi" or "terrorist" and he looks incredibly reasonable.
Let's try it.
"well i have a question, i personaly hate nazis like completly, i firmly believe that all true nazis need to be destroyed as in hunted out and killed. the worst things in history were brought about largly by nazis and there is pretty much nothing that anyone could say to me that would convince me otherwise.
i feel their the closest thing to pure evil there is, as there is no to far to go when it comes to completing their nazish (right adj. for nazi?) goals."
o if nazis are evil is it evil to destroy them and does my unwavering belief in their wrongness make me a nazi aswell?"
No it still sounds pretty crazy to me. I mean after all a lot of people people who were considered part of the nazi party of Germany were simply poor lower class folk who were looking for a leader that could get them out of the economic depression WWI brought. Hitler was using the Jews as a scapegoat and as a focal point. Humans tend to band together and unite if they all have somehting to hate together. Also some nazis definitely had to have converted to protect themselves. After all to be a jewish sympathizer meant death.
As for the Jews never doing anything wrong that's quite incorrect. The most famous example is the crucifiction of Jesus (assuming that DID happen). The Jews have hands just as bloodly as the rest of the religons.
"in relation to the Israel-Palestine conflict, so has the increase of Jewish atrocities in the name of a higher cause. It reached its peak in the mid-1980s to mid-1990s with the maiming and murder of Muslim non-combatants by the Jewish Underground, the massacre of Muslims in prayer by Barukh Goldstein, and Yigal Amir's assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin."
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/ideas_belief/warpeace/War_TO_Combat/War_Holy_Firestone.htm
Of course I'm not saying all Jews are bad. That's not my point. I'm merely making the point that not all of them are GOOD. I'm trying to show that the world is not black and white.
I beg to differ on this point. Take Bush's "domestic spying" program and other various political blunders he has had. He's lied about the weapons capability that they had. He lied about Saddam's connection to Al-Queda. He is trying to take info from Google. He has abused his power by overriding a number of laws using his presidential signing statements. The most famous of which is one about the torture laws.
"When President Bush signed the new law, sponsored by Senator McCain, restricting the use of torture when interrogating detainees, he also issued a Presidential signing statement. That statement asserted that his power as Commander-in-Chief gives him the authority to bypass the very law he had just signed."
Is this stupid or what?
Obviously this was against public opinion and yet he still did it and continues to do it. Public opinion says that Americans want to pull out of Iraq. Have we pulled out?
Let me tell you something about history and how the world views it.
On the morning of August 6, 1945 a bomb was dropped on a city, followed three days later by the detonation of another over a different city. The number of casulties from the explosions were high. "The best approximation is that the number is huge and falls between 100,000 and 200,000."[1] Most of the casualties were civilians.
Sounds evil doesn't it? The two cities were Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Let's not forget the radiation casulties as well. Does the world view the US incontrovertably as evil for this? No. On the contrary many support the use of atomic weapons while others do not. Do you? Maybe, maybe not.
In my personal view war is a great waster. A waste of life. A waste of money. A waste of time. Is war justified for certain causes? Maybe.
And that's my two yen.
was no evil then there wouldn't be any good