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Well i haven't got a link yet but ill try get it soon... i read in the newspaper that 31 people in Europe has died from heat wave...
i was shock again when i see the temperature rising... 30 C... well i could live in that kind of temperature, it the common temperature in tropical countries like the one im living... although it was worst hit in France where temperature hit 47c at one point phew... ok thats hot... France has majority tally of the people killed... well most of it babies and still some grownups died from it...

well i hope someone could come up with a better source though

ok let me hear your views..

Hmmm, sounds like global warming again. Too bad people concentrate on part of the issue only. For all those people that believe humans are the cause you might want to study geology and natural history a little more. We are only part of the overall issue. The Earth warms up and cools down in cycles (that much has been proven). Are humans responsible for the current heat up? No. At least not entirely. People don't realize that while we may help it speed up somewhat the actual process is a natural one and would happen anyway without our influence (it would just take longer)

Quote by MnemethHmmm, sounds like global warming again. Too bad people concentrate on part of the issue only. For all those people that believe humans are the cause you might want to study geology and natural history a little more. We are only part of the overall issue. The Earth warms up and cools down in cycles (that much has been proven). Are humans responsible for the current heat up? No. At least not entirely. People don't realize that while we may help it speed up somewhat the actual process is a natural one and would happen anyway without our influence (it would just take longer)

That's a very cavalier attitude to take with the planet we live on. Yes, global warming may end up doing no real long term harm to the planet and to human civilization. But this is the only planet we've got, we can't take that sort of chance! We're conducting a huge experiment with with the very world we live in, and we don't really know what's going to happen. That's stupid.

Don't get me wrong minebann. I don't support the path humanity is taking with respect to energy but the constant load of crap from "environmentalists" (and I use that term quite loosely in some higher profile cases) tends to get quite annoying with the demands for an immediate turn-around. Its just not going to happen tomorrow. It'll take time to wean the world off of petroleum and there will be those that kick and scream every step of the way. As far as this planet is concerned, I wouldn't worry too much about it since it has dealt with much more violent events than we could ever hope to trigger and its still here. Even if we fail miserably at taking care of the planet the probability of it outlasting our species is probably around 99.995%. The question is do we want the leave a good place for future generations or are we just going to serve ourselves and let the future fend for itself.

Cockroaches can survive nuclear events... so at least it is likely that there will still be life on Earth. I was also said that humankid like to have a legacy... but it doesn't really seem so. Anyway I haven't seen lot of environmentalists wanting an immediate u-turn. But if walking half a mile or using a bike instead of using a car for a short distance is such a tremending effort, I guess that people have really diverging opinions.

Especially since most of the scientists - I guess they know more about geology and natural history - think human activity has an important part to this cycle. The annoying fact about some newspapers is that they think they have to treat equally things. A little like if someone comes and claims Sun revolves around Earth, there will be two articles on the same length, one against it, one for it and at the end, you "know" there will be two theories but hardly have a clue which one is most scientifically supported.

About the heat wave in Europe... that's an insidious enmy, isn't it ? Since people must be careful all the time and have to change their habits. I think in France at least one third of the TV news was devoted to this issue yesterday (just few days after the football (World Cup 2006) nearly had 95 % of the most watched TV news emission).

Didn't something like this happened a few years ago too?
Heat wave in Europe, bunch of people died.

Quote by alminaBut if walking half a mile or using a bike instead of using a car for a short distance is such a tremending effort, I guess that people have really diverging opinions.


Not everyone lives in the city. I don't even live within walking distance of a convenience store. It's really dangerous to ride bikes on my road because it weaves around and across a run, with probably a dozen one-lane bridges, and no sidewalks. Even walking at many places is pretty dangerous because you can't see what's around the turn at all. This may sound like an extreme case, but it's probably just as common as people living in the city, just with different circumstances elsewhere. The fact is, I actually do need a car to be able to function in life, unless some alternate means of either fuel or transportation come out.

Then get a Hybrid Car, there the same as any normal car except ten times better for the enviornment, and you save on gas!

Also this is obviously Global Warming in Europe, and people will say it won't do anything well heres your proof that it can kill.

Also i still suggesst Al Gores( Former US Vice President) Movie on Global Warming it's called "An Incovient Truth", Only reliable Scientific Data is used in it.

Shinsengumi89

Forgive the somewhat odd answer but I am completely in favour of finding a nice alternate and somewhat cooler planet to reside on.....

On a slightly more serious note, whilst it is true that the earth cools down and heats up in cycles and it is also true that humans are contributing to the heating up (although one must not forget the hubub in the early 90's regarding nuclear winter). One must not forget that many places (India, Singapore, etc) have dealt with the temperatures encountered in the UK recently for many years ......
The simple fact is that in the case of us in the UK the buildings are designed to retain heat (as is befitting a gernerally cool climate) rather than deal with the heat effectivly.... Maybe its time to start designing buildings which can cope with a highly variable climate.
Granted it may not solve any major problems (causes...etc) and true it is effectivly curing the symptoms rather than the disease but it can't really hurt as a stop gap...

I can't say something about the heat wave in europe generally, because I didn't follow the news, but down here in germany its quite bearable. The last days we had max temperatures around 33 to 40°c in some regions, but that stays just for a few days, until the next short storm brings some freshness, just like now^^
But I wouldnt go that far to connect it directly with tha global warming, because just 2 months ago it was the opposite. the last snow in our region felt at the 1st june, and thats not just a coincidence, because i remember a few years ago it was the same case. I think you can just see global warning at regions, where its hard on the edge to be abnormal, like the smelting polar caps and glaciers, which raise the sea level.
I think the flood of New Orleans is much more conformable with the effects of global warming.
...although we have to admit: the last ice age is not too long ago, so the natural aspect of the green house effect hasn't to be sneezed completely

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sorry 4 bad english -.-

Quote by alminaCockroaches can survive nuclear events... so at least it is likely that there will still be life on Earth. I was also said that humankid like to have a legacy... but it doesn't really seem so. Anyway I haven't seen lot of environmentalists wanting an immediate u-turn. But if walking half a mile or using a bike instead of using a car for a short distance is such a tremending effort, I guess that people have really diverging opinions.


http://www.bio.umass.edu/biology/kunkel/cockroach_faq.html#Q5
Partially true. :nerd:

Quote: Now it just so happens that cells are most sensitive to radiation when they are dividing. That is the basis on which radiation is used to kill cancer cells. Cancer cells tend to divide more often than the other cells of our body. For a given dose of radiation you will kill more cancer cells than normal cells. With the right dose with the right cancer you can kill all the cancer cells while only killing some of the most rapidly dividing normal cells (i.e. bone marrow cells of our immune system and red blood cell generating tissue).
Now if a typical cockroach molts at most once a week, its cells usually divide within a 48 hour period within that week. That means that about 3/4 of the cockroaches would not have cells that are particularly radiation sensitive at any one time. If a killing radiation is endured by a cockroach and human population, then 3/4 of the cockroaches might survive while none of the humans might survive since our blood stem-cells and immune stem-cells are dividing all the time.

They had this problem last summer as well.

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