The world is corrupt at some level. Not just in big business or politics, but in ordinary social situations as well.

There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who have 'it' (money, power, popularity, anything else of value), and those who don't. Those who have 'it' will use it to get their way by influencing those who don't have 'it.' If they refuse to cooperate in any way, those with 'it' will do whatever it takes to elimiate this problem. Sometimes, the stubborn person is done away with. More commonly, however, the ideal solution is to destroy the person's reputation. Depending on the person, people have committed suicide because others won't let them forget whatever they did.

So I ask you: Which would be worse, to be killed, or to be forever humiliated without remorse because you wouldn't give in to the corrupt?

I think that, so long as you don't give in to the corrupt AND you're proud of what you've done, this is a far better fate than be killed. You only get one life [aside from the reincarnation or heaven / hell theory], so the worst thing that could happen to you is to lose it. If you're still alive, then you can hold on to your dignity and pride as a human being who refuses to give in to the system, and you can simply start anew somewhere else. Life has a way of solving things in the end, it can't be cruel to you forever. The only thing you need to remember is to never, ever give up.

Quote by GearStalker05 The world is corrupt at some level. Not just in big business or politics, but in ordinary social situations as well.

I agree, corruption runs in many levels of our lives.

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There are two kinds of people in this world: Those who have 'it' (money, power, popularity, anything else of value), and those who don't. Those who have 'it' will use it to get their way by influencing those who don't have 'it.' If they refuse to cooperate in any way, those with 'it' will do whatever it takes to elimiate this problem.

What are you talking about?

That is a very dangerous thing to believe. The world is not clear cut black and white, rich and poor, good and evil. And most definitely not everyone that is rich (so to say) is evil. Thankfully I come from a family that is a bit better off than average, but that doesn't mean that I step on people when I want to get something. You are forgeting something: Education. And that is education not in terms of knowledge, but in the series of values and civics that determine your attitude towards the world around you. What we call "Formación" in Spanish or "Bildung" in German.

I won't deny that there are people that are completely ruthles and uncaring about people around them, but please, don't generalise. Not everyone that has money is greedy and ruthless. I went to a private school where a lot of children from very rich backgrounds also used to attend and we didn't step on each other, we learned how to help each other, and how to help our fellow man who is at a disadvantage. Sure, there were some bad seeds, but that was it, they were bad seeds among a healthy core, not the other way around.

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Sometimes, the stubborn person is done away with. More commonly, however, the ideal solution is to destroy the person's reputation. Depending on the person, people have committed suicide because others won't let them forget whatever they did.

Really? I think you watch a lot of movies. I have never heard (outside of movies) of anybody who would be driven to suicide because he was forced by the evil rich men to do something wrong.

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So I ask you: Which would be worse, to be killed, or to be forever humiliated without remorse because you wouldn't give in to the corrupt?

Even legally there is something known as coercion which means, that if somebody more powerful forces you to do something, you are not really responsible for it. That said, there is always a choice, and you can always choose not to give in. I believe that if you have the moral fibre to regret something that you were coerced into doing, you should also have the moral fibre to not do it in the first place.

But in your black and white world, if you were forced to do something by people that have it, that implies that you don't have it, therefore you are always the victim. So you should really be used to doing what you are told.

Humiliation has never bothered me. I would choose that, not because of something as vague as morality, but simply because I would never wish to end my own life.

I'm selfish like that.

I hope you\'re not the one who\'s thinking in suicidie.

But the kind of people you\'re talking about are selfish, and usually non-believers of any religion, and have no moral. You bet they fear and hate death.

That\'s precisly why defamation is the best punishment, because they\'re trapped, like we say here in Mexico, between the sword and the wall. Defamation is also a horrible thing, but they have to accept it because death is worst.

Here, in Cancun and Puebla, is happening something like that. Very rich people and corrupt authorities were involved in child abuse. They\'re falling one by one in jail, and they have no escape... but no one has commited suicide.

You bet jail-for-life is worst than death penalty. You become kind of a dead-living person.

Quote by Mireya2I hope you\'re not the one who\'s thinking in suicidie.

I'm not the one contemplating suicide. I was just referring to certain kinds of people who put too much empasis on their reputation. So much so that I assume that they would rather die than give up their lifestyle.

Naturally, there are exceptions to my...um...view on this. Not all with the power/influence are corrupt. The only issue is that most people nowadays don't pay too much mind to a persons minor actions unless said acctions are wrong. I cannot count the times I've heard on the news only a small mention of a good deed as compared to massive coverage on a person's wrongdoings.

As for people taking certain drastic measures to eliminate the opposition, I know that is true for a fact. Living here in the U.S., I have an idea as to the lengths people with power/influence will go to be rid of those who stand before them. If it wasn't true, then there would be no such thing as witness protection.

lolz, damn social climbers, once they climb to the top, it's so easy to make them fall... I despise those types, they climb and climb and if you show them what they are doing, you're a backstabber... heh... silly people of the world... status only determines how much you "think" you might lose if your rep. is ruined... if enough people know the type of person you are, then why should you be worried about other's misrepresenting you... just sue them for damages and live life as best as possible... cause your reputation is everything nowadays, but the fear is what controls the tippy-toe steps politics mandates. Bleh, just figure out your own integrity, your own worth, your own WAY!

Humiliation ain't that bad, seeing that if you were dead you wouldn't care, so why should you care whilst you're alive. You're just a crazy person

death is not a way out.i'd rather go for the humiliation then to die because of such a reason.

There is no shame or humiliation in fighting for your morals, in fact its something to be proud of.

Isn't death already better?
To be rid from this good for nothing world that is on it's way to doom?