So like at my college, fraternities and sororities are a big thing on campus.
Personally I hate them because anything that creates an elitest society pisses
me off. I also hate the fact that they're always handing out flyers trying to
get you to pledge or go to their parties. It's not the people that I mind, it's
the atmosphere it creates. Like I really hate frats. Sororities would be ok if
the girls weren't so bitchy. Like the girls dress like sluts and when I look at
them they're always like, "What are you staring at?" as if they don't
know. Goddamn. That's my thought what's ur take on frats and sororities?
As a member of a fraternity, I'm frankly kinda offended that you apparently
haven't taken the time to try to get to know the people in those organizations
or the reasons those organizations exist. You seem to be concentrating on the
fact that all you see is the guys partying or trying to get others to join. Try
hanging around when they do real work. Now if you go to a school where they are
truly elitist snobs then why whould they be asking others to join or are they
just asking other elitest snobs. I apologize if you do go to a school where the
fraternities and sororities are more troublemakers than social organizations
because thats really a bad example that reflects on all fraternities and
sororities. I will also admit that having listened to how some sorority girls
talk about their own sisters (same sorority) that I am amazed that those
organizations do not just fly apart at the seams sometimes. As far as the
constant recruitment thats common and a good idea as longs as its not pushy. The
best methodology it to meet others, make them your friends, ivnite them out to
meet your friends and then if they prove compatible with the group you ask them
to join. After all each fraternity is different and not all people are suited to
join a fraternity or sorority. Unfortunately some groups do tend to perform a
cast net type of operation to get the most people possible without regards to
how they will fit in with the fraternity. Its not great for the organization and
even worse for those that join before realizing what they've gotten themselves
into.
We don't really, as far as I know, have them in the UK. I get the feeling it's
very much a north american thing. >__> My sisters studying in Texas, she
had two frats try to recruit her, but she's never been much of a frat type. I
always pictured the sorority girls as the arch-sterotype.. ya know? :0 I don't
think I could stand to be around them for more than 10 minutes.. or else I'll
start to get dumber. kidding D:!
Quote by MnemethAs a member of a
fraternity, I'm frankly kinda offended that you apparently haven't taken the
time to try to get to know the people in those organizations or the reasons
those organizations exist. You seem to be concentrating on the fact that all you
see is the guys partying or trying to get others to join. Try hanging around
when they do real work. Now if you go to a school where they are truly elitist
snobs then why whould they be asking others to join or are they just asking
other elitest snobs. I apologize if you do go to a school where the fraternities
and sororities are more troublemakers than social organizations because thats
really a bad example that reflects on all fraternities and sororities. I will
also admit that having listened to how some sorority girls talk about their own
sisters (same sorority) that I am amazed that those organizations do not just
fly apart at the seams sometimes. As far as the constant recruitment thats
common and a good idea as longs as its not pushy. The best methodology it to
meet others, make them your friends, ivnite them out to meet your friends and
then if they prove compatible with the group you ask them to join. After all
each fraternity is different and not all people are suited to join a fraternity
or sorority. Unfortunately some groups do tend to perform a cast net type of
operation to get the most people possible without regards to how they will fit
in with the fraternity. Its not great for the organization and even worse for
those that join before realizing what they've gotten themselves
into.
Hey here's the thing. How do you get to know individuals of a group when the
group itself puts up walls? You know damn well that frats go after the big
muscular white guy types or wannabe gangster asians. I myself am born American,
but the way I dress and style my hair makes me look like I'm from Japan or
something and they never approach me. I have friends that are in sororities and
frats, but that's only because I met them before they joined up. What is this
real work you're talking about? The work I see are guys standing around playing
music loudly on the radios and handing out flyers to only the attractive looking
girls. How is that not elitist? I don't like fraternities and I feel they aren't
necessary because honestly, who pays money to go make friends? And as for your
feelings of being offended, this is my I give a shit face....
Well coming from a fraternity that is pretty much a melting pot for all sorts of
people I find your description rather stereotypical and therefore useless to the
public at large.
With some exceptions almost every college campus has fraternal groups that range
from the hell-raisers to some of the best and most involved students on campus
(hell my particular chapter spans the range within its own membership).
As for the work try the amount of philanthropic work and fundraising done by
these organizations (I can't speak to your campus and orgs only my own) for
various organizations including national charities, local charities, the school
itself, and other non-profit organizations. This is not work that is plastered
on the school bulletin boards or promoted as parties or in most cases even
touted by the organizations themselves.
As far as the paying money to make friends comment, you haven't even scratched
the surface of what a fraternity is. I challenge you to go find out.
Yeah I realize all campuses are different, but on mine most frats and stuff are
out for themselves, and they dont really do volunteer work or anything. They
mostly just use their influence to get what they want and stuff like that.
I hate frats and sororities. I have the same problem as Benjikun, my appearance
keeps them away. And I also personally dislike organized groups of people in
general. It normaly only causes trouble. And the girls in sororities DO usualy
dress like sluts and they act like Bit#&%s. And the boys are also normally
huge pumped, dumb guys who barely can spell their own names.
Actually I'd be more worried about stereotyping others. I've personally never
seen much good in judging people soley on appearances or on their membership in
an organization or other reasons. If I did that I would not have even half the
friends I now have.
I hate frats and sororities, but my mom and my best friend belonged to them, and
they say they weren't bad. I still won't join one when I transfer from the
community college I'm currently attending to a larger 4-year college.
However, given the fact that frats have more dangerous histories, such as those
"initiation" things, I would sooner kill someone than let my little
brother join one. My brother is brain-damaged from brain cancer and the surgery
and chemo to cure him, and he's a very nice, trusting boy. Frat boys -- at least
the ones I've met -- are egotists, they're mean, and they don't give a damn
about who they hurt. If my brother pledges to one, fine, but if he ends up dead,
I swear, I'll find the frat he pledged to and bring hell to his frat
brothers.
Quote by JakkalsI hate frats and
sororities. I have the same problem as Benjikun, my appearance keeps them away.
And I also personally dislike organized groups of people in general. It normaly
only causes trouble.
So does that mean you hate clubs? Clubs are way better, in my opinion. I'm in
three clubs already and I'm looking to join a fourth. Clubs aren't elitist like
frats and sororities, they're just a group of people who share a common
interest.
Lol, I was in a sorority myself (I graduated from college a couple years ago).
Sure, there are frats out there that's really annoying, etc. But I think, that's
because I never really took the time to get to know them, and the fact that
whenever I walk in front of their house some really annoying guys keep trying to
hit on me.
I got to know the frat next door really well. And trust me, you'll find anime
freak and japanophile all over the house. I mean, how geeky is it, me going over
to their house every single night to do various geeky things with them. Most
week nights, I will go over and play halo all night. Yes, I got ass-raped in
that game... But it's just so worth it. Other weeknights, we'll go and watch
anime together. Most weekends, we'll go out, hang out, got drunk, go back, and
laugh at some porn.
I do agree, some of my sisters are what you call "bitchy" in a general
sense. But well, they do have their good qualities. I guess, they can be really
daunting to get to know, and maybe, not the ones you find worth the time you
take to get to know. To other type of guys, they'll be the people they want to
be with.
As for the social activities, philanthropies, and volunteer work, we don't
normally go around telling people what good things we do. I mean, what's the
point of doing something good if you feel the need to flaunt it. If you're doing
something good, you're supposed to do it because you want to do it, and that
that good deed itself is a reward on its own.
As for the appearance, well... I don't know how you look, so I can't tell.
However, most appearance "problem" are the ones you can fix anyways.
For example, if you're grossly fat, you can start going to the gym and go on a
healthier diet. I mean, as long as you're clean and not smelly, I don't think
most of them would go and shun you out. Maybe, it is you who went and shunned
these people out because of their looks?
I think, people, organised or not, are not inherently evil. In the end, you just
have to go and get to know them.
So like at my college, fraternities and sororities are a big thing on campus. Personally I hate them because anything that creates an elitest society pisses me off. I also hate the fact that they're always handing out flyers trying to get you to pledge or go to their parties. It's not the people that I mind, it's the atmosphere it creates. Like I really hate frats. Sororities would be ok if the girls weren't so bitchy. Like the girls dress like sluts and when I look at them they're always like, "What are you staring at?" as if they don't know. Goddamn. That's my thought what's ur take on frats and sororities?
As a member of a fraternity, I'm frankly kinda offended that you apparently haven't taken the time to try to get to know the people in those organizations or the reasons those organizations exist. You seem to be concentrating on the fact that all you see is the guys partying or trying to get others to join. Try hanging around when they do real work. Now if you go to a school where they are truly elitist snobs then why whould they be asking others to join or are they just asking other elitest snobs. I apologize if you do go to a school where the fraternities and sororities are more troublemakers than social organizations because thats really a bad example that reflects on all fraternities and sororities. I will also admit that having listened to how some sorority girls talk about their own sisters (same sorority) that I am amazed that those organizations do not just fly apart at the seams sometimes. As far as the constant recruitment thats common and a good idea as longs as its not pushy. The best methodology it to meet others, make them your friends, ivnite them out to meet your friends and then if they prove compatible with the group you ask them to join. After all each fraternity is different and not all people are suited to join a fraternity or sorority. Unfortunately some groups do tend to perform a cast net type of operation to get the most people possible without regards to how they will fit in with the fraternity. Its not great for the organization and even worse for those that join before realizing what they've gotten themselves into.
We don't really, as far as I know, have them in the UK. I get the feeling it's very much a north american thing. >__> My sisters studying in Texas, she had two frats try to recruit her, but she's never been much of a frat type. I always pictured the sorority girls as the arch-sterotype.. ya know? :0 I don't think I could stand to be around them for more than 10 minutes.. or else I'll start to get dumber. kidding D:!
Hey here's the thing. How do you get to know individuals of a group when the group itself puts up walls? You know damn well that frats go after the big muscular white guy types or wannabe gangster asians. I myself am born American, but the way I dress and style my hair makes me look like I'm from Japan or something and they never approach me. I have friends that are in sororities and frats, but that's only because I met them before they joined up. What is this real work you're talking about? The work I see are guys standing around playing music loudly on the radios and handing out flyers to only the attractive looking girls. How is that not elitist? I don't like fraternities and I feel they aren't necessary because honestly, who pays money to go make friends? And as for your feelings of being offended, this is my I give a shit face....
Well coming from a fraternity that is pretty much a melting pot for all sorts of people I find your description rather stereotypical and therefore useless to the public at large.
With some exceptions almost every college campus has fraternal groups that range from the hell-raisers to some of the best and most involved students on campus (hell my particular chapter spans the range within its own membership).
As for the work try the amount of philanthropic work and fundraising done by these organizations (I can't speak to your campus and orgs only my own) for various organizations including national charities, local charities, the school itself, and other non-profit organizations. This is not work that is plastered on the school bulletin boards or promoted as parties or in most cases even touted by the organizations themselves.
As far as the paying money to make friends comment, you haven't even scratched the surface of what a fraternity is. I challenge you to go find out.
NO! I challenge U to a pokemon battle!
Yeah I realize all campuses are different, but on mine most frats and stuff are out for themselves, and they dont really do volunteer work or anything. They mostly just use their influence to get what they want and stuff like that.
I hate frats and sororities. I have the same problem as Benjikun, my appearance keeps them away. And I also personally dislike organized groups of people in general. It normaly only causes trouble. And the girls in sororities DO usualy dress like sluts and they act like Bit#&%s. And the boys are also normally huge pumped, dumb guys who barely can spell their own names.
Actually I'd be more worried about stereotyping others. I've personally never seen much good in judging people soley on appearances or on their membership in an organization or other reasons. If I did that I would not have even half the friends I now have.
I hate frats and sororities, but my mom and my best friend belonged to them, and they say they weren't bad. I still won't join one when I transfer from the community college I'm currently attending to a larger 4-year college.
However, given the fact that frats have more dangerous histories, such as those "initiation" things, I would sooner kill someone than let my little brother join one. My brother is brain-damaged from brain cancer and the surgery and chemo to cure him, and he's a very nice, trusting boy. Frat boys -- at least the ones I've met -- are egotists, they're mean, and they don't give a damn about who they hurt. If my brother pledges to one, fine, but if he ends up dead, I swear, I'll find the frat he pledged to and bring hell to his frat brothers.
So does that mean you hate clubs? Clubs are way better, in my opinion. I'm in three clubs already and I'm looking to join a fourth. Clubs aren't elitist like frats and sororities, they're just a group of people who share a common interest.
Lol, I was in a sorority myself (I graduated from college a couple years ago). Sure, there are frats out there that's really annoying, etc. But I think, that's because I never really took the time to get to know them, and the fact that whenever I walk in front of their house some really annoying guys keep trying to hit on me.
I got to know the frat next door really well. And trust me, you'll find anime freak and japanophile all over the house. I mean, how geeky is it, me going over to their house every single night to do various geeky things with them. Most week nights, I will go over and play halo all night. Yes, I got ass-raped in that game... But it's just so worth it. Other weeknights, we'll go and watch anime together. Most weekends, we'll go out, hang out, got drunk, go back, and laugh at some porn.
I do agree, some of my sisters are what you call "bitchy" in a general sense. But well, they do have their good qualities. I guess, they can be really daunting to get to know, and maybe, not the ones you find worth the time you take to get to know. To other type of guys, they'll be the people they want to be with.
As for the social activities, philanthropies, and volunteer work, we don't normally go around telling people what good things we do. I mean, what's the point of doing something good if you feel the need to flaunt it. If you're doing something good, you're supposed to do it because you want to do it, and that that good deed itself is a reward on its own.
As for the appearance, well... I don't know how you look, so I can't tell. However, most appearance "problem" are the ones you can fix anyways. For example, if you're grossly fat, you can start going to the gym and go on a healthier diet. I mean, as long as you're clean and not smelly, I don't think most of them would go and shun you out. Maybe, it is you who went and shunned these people out because of their looks?
I think, people, organised or not, are not inherently evil. In the end, you just have to go and get to know them.