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Learning Japanese (non-native and how long?)

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Well I am trying to learn Japanese now, so I can read some books that looks really great.
So I was wondering I am using the Rosetta stone programs and just a lot of stuff I found on websites and so on.
I am 26 at the moment and hope it does not take till im 30 lol

SO can anybody recommend anything that they have used and how long they have been busy with Japanese?

So if I could like get a format like

Age started at
Time to learn
Materials used

That would be great :)

PS
I was looking to post this in the char lounge, but did not look to fit there .

well i am to and i want to know if the rosetta stone works cause i got this book but studin aint my strong suite.

yea so far it is great, but it is a slow form of learning.

this is what they got up on there site.

"A Complete Foreign Language Curriculum in Japanese

With Rosetta Stone, you will learn Japanese the way you learned your own native language, without translation or memorization."

Hope it helps but so far it is the best one i found, that is why i asked the question here if anybody know if there was anything better.
I guess i gotta accept that it is gona take me 2 -3 years lol

well i think it is gg to take me years to study japanese coz i alr have diifficulties in catching up with my studies

thank ill look into it

If youre truly serious about learning japanese start memorizing the Hirogana, chances are that you will never learn the kanji, improve your vocabulary by watching things in japanese and listening to their songs. Start a study group if you want to practice with friends. Whatever you decide, do it to the best of your ability and put as much effort as possible into it, hope that helps a bit, i personally use Rosetta Stone

thanks yeah i got most of the hiragana and Katakana i tried on the Kanji but i think i need to learn a bit more before i try that again lol
i found the japanesepod101.com site that looks actually very good :)

....i want to learn japanese tooo....
but i m not still very well in my english...=.=
who can tell me what to do....

The best way to learn any foreign language is from a real-life teacher; people generally learn more quickly if they have interaction with others during learning (as opposed to, say, reading a how-to-learn Japanese book).

But if you have no choice but to learn from books, I would recommend doing other stuff to help along the way. For example interacting with people who do speak the language (even if you don't take actual lessons from them), or even really simple stuff you can do that is still enjoyable. One way that I picked up a lot of Japanese was/is by watching anime only in Japanese with the English subtitles on. (That most likely won't teach you Japense, but it will help with pronunciation and such.)

Quote by lzaneWell I am trying to learn Japanese now, so I can read some books that looks really great.
So I was wondering I am using the Rosetta stone programs and just a lot of stuff I found on websites and so on.
I am 26 at the moment and hope it does not take till im 30 lol

SO can anybody recommend anything that they have used and how long they have been busy with Japanese?

So if I could like get a format like

Age started at
Time to learn
Materials used

That would be great :)

PS
I was looking to post this in the char lounge, but did not look to fit there .


You won't get far with Rosetta Stone and internet courses. I had those CD-ROMs too and sold them after a week or two...

I've used small pocket guides for Japanese and web courses before my trip to Japan. I knew the very basics: some vocabulary, grammer, hiragana, katakana and a few kanji to read some stuff: prices, things as ????????... or ?? and ?? which two different things, ne ;)

Before coming back, I bought a few books in Japan: Genki - An Integrated Course in Modern Japanese. I studied Japanese every evening. You might get disappointed, but if you want to really talk, speak and write Japanese, you'll have to go to University.

I'll be 26 next month and I'm a first year student at university now. I quit my job to be able to study Japanese full time. After a few weeks I've seen everything that got covered in the Genki books I studied during a year on myself. At university they use A course in modern Japanese, published by ???????? (The University of Nagoya Press)

Well... as you want to be able to read books, you'll have to go to school. You won't be able to know enough Japanese in four years of self study to read a novel.

I informed for evening school as well before going to university. The focused only on communication. No kanji drills and loads of grammar. They see in 4 years what I'll have seen between September and July.

It's damn hard you know... studying something different before (computer science) and working for 3 years got me totally not used to studying anymore ^^ I'll see how it ends this year, but I'm not going to give up on this, no matter what. I want to live and work in Japan in my early 30s.

I would like to learn Japaneses :) it seems that you guys have and idea on how to star t learning

i write in spanish O_o program JAPANESE and Roseta stone ^^ now here we go spanish

para los latinos que entran a este foro nose si sea una falta de respeto escribir en español pero no me queda otra porque nose muy bien ingles, demasiado limitado creo... he probado esos dos programas y creo que son los mejorcitos aunque yo prefiero la lectura por medio de manuales y guias de como aprender la gramatica japonesa solo eso y pues alguno que otro diccionario de bolsillo ^^

I learned how to read hiragana and katakana (did I spell it right?) just by watching those little lyrics written at the bottom of the screen in every anime... Back then my only clue was that Japanese characters were syllabaries^_^

Now I can read all the hiragana and katakana characters! Now I'm starting to know some kanji characters...

Just gather lot's of sources, then select what you need and structure your information. Ive read some good sites with interesting tricks to remember hiragana. Even a game called knuckles goes to China used for kanji (dont play longer than half a hour or youll go mad:P) And Pimsleur japanese audio courses work too, but you have to refresh alot, and then refresh some more^^.

Good luck,

As I have said in other threads, if you want to learn Japanese and REALLY learn it, I recommend, whole-heartedly, learning it in a classroom environment. It is VERY hard to teach yourself Japanese, especially the writing, but going over it repeatedly in a class keeps it in your memory. :) I learned Hiragana and Katakana very very quickly because it was the 1st thing we learned in the class and from there everything was written in Japanese for the class, forcing you to decipher and learn - a great method, I think.
Kanji takes lots of effort in either case - alone or in a class, but it is easier to learn it by writing it in place of words you already know in sentences, etc. (For example some of my 1st kanji I learned were the kanji for "sensei" and "watashi", etc.) now I know about.. hmm close to 100 kanji but still MUCH more to learn! lol.

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR STUDIES! ^_^

uhh well if you're really dedicated you can learn quickly... also it takes time anyways =/.... learning the basics... will be easy ( grammar/pronouncing and stuff ).. then comes the moderate stuff ( lots of words/meaning of words/grammatical stuff ).... then the hardest to learn is memorizing the kanji and when i mean dedicated i mean continous learning every day lol

i learn them from anime. now i can actually understand a bit without subtitles. thts a progress for me.

well being born several times over in past lives most of the language and kanji actually came second nature, I was using it within a day and fluent within a six month's period...the hardest was the kanji not to learn but to write, because, you see, I'm left handed and it has to be done right handed, to get the slants right and proper ediqute and all that...but seriously all I used was some disks, two, that I got at a local bookstore that was learning japanese, I don't remember it entirely...and this was far out of high school that I started to even learn japanese...maybe 24 when I started learning it

I'm learning a few different ways. I got a Hiragana and Katakana workbook, a learn japanese in 10 minutes a day workbook, and some disks. I'm watching all my anime in Japanese and I got a Japanese penpal to practice using the characters.

Also, my boyfriend is from Nagoya (here for college) so that's a big help, haha. The first thing he told me to do was to learn hiragana, then katakana while doing some vocab at the same time.

Some stuff is hard because (for example) the word 'ushi' ... if your voice goes up at the end it means death (or something along those lines, unfortunatley things get lost in translation sometimes) but if you say ushi and your voice goes down at the end it means cow. so i guess you could mean to say 'look - a field of cows' but say 'look- a field of death' hahaha

anyway - lots and lots of hard work and dedication are the key!

lol started in sec 1 (when i was 13) still studying.. sec 4 now.. (16)

it's kinda like normal school lessons... but yeah, must work hard..

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