OK, I'll make this simple,
I'm gonna get a new PC very soon, but since I'm quite clueless when it come to
know the best one to get, I will ask you my comrades, some of you may have the
knowledge that I lack,
here are some of the things that I want on my new PC and I don't really care
about the price:
1. Ultimate Speed
2. Super Powerful graphic card
2. Lots of RAM to spare
the thing is, I want a PC powerful enough to play Love Death 2 in full capacity,
without cutting any details or have to wait fior the darn thing to load,
the thing is, well, just let me know wich PC brand is the most powerful around
nowdays
thank you in advance.
A machine to be fast really depends on the application that's code for it.
If you want the fastest speed today, then
go with a dual core like a
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400. The E8400 is buiilt on the new 45nm process, with high-K
technology, runs a 3GHz, has a 1333fsb and comes with 6mb of cache as compare to
a puny 4mb on the E6000 series.
If you want to future proof your system, then go with a quad core like the Intel
Core 2 Quad. The Q6600 is the older quad which runs at 2.4GHz, with 4mb of L2
cache and chungs alonge the 1066 Front side bus.
Since the E8400 is a dual core, but with the speed it operates with today's
applications the dual core will out perform a quad. When the time comes and
programers starts to take use of the additional 2 cores found on the quad then a
quad will surly beat the hell of a dual.
The new desktop based quads from Intel, the Q9000* series are not out yet but
they should be out soon. It all similar to the E8000 series except it has 12mb
of L2 cache twice of that for a dual core.
Most consumer boards these days can go up to 8gb, you'll have to take a look at
the specs to verify. In order to go up to 8gb you'll have to use a 64bit OS
where as a 32bit can only go up to 4gb.** Go with DDR2 for now as for DDR3 the
price is just ridiculous.
Gaming really depends on how far your willing to reach. For most people, a
single graphic card provides more than enough raw performace for most of today's
games. If you want to play in full details on a large screen monitor like a
24" up to 30 then you can opt for a 2nd graphic card, like Nvidia SLI or
AMD CrossFire.
Also game must be written to support a dual or triple graphic card setup
otherwise it will not take advantage of it.
The fastest performing card today is the 8800Ultra, but you have to pay a
premium just to have it. The best card for it's performace and money is the
8800gt with cost around $300USD and is faster than the old 8800gts that cost
around $450USD. There is a new 8800gts called the 8800gts G92 and it's faster
than the 8800gt. The new 8800gts G92 has pure video HD a hardware encoder that
was not present on the old 8800gts. This helps elimiate processor resource usage
when watching high-def movies like HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.***
* The Extreme Editon is not includes and the Q9300 only has 6mb of L2 cache as
compare to 12mb on the other new quads.
** A 32bit OS only support up to 4gb, but with its roof limit you may see less
than that. On some systems you see 3.2gb or even less as low as 2GB.
*** According to articles around the web Toshiba has decided to pull the plug on
their HD-DVD format. So it look like Sony's Blu-Ray is the next gen
format.]
As for the Phenom, they got serious issues so I wouldn't recommend that.
For SLI or CrossFire you must have a board that support it. Also they are not
compatible with each other.
Again that depends on what your planning to use it for. If your a frequent
traveler then you'll need something that's light and has a longer laster battery
life, but small machines comes at a price. The price to pay is they operate at a
slower speed because slower parts uses less energy and thus uses less battery
life.
Of course they are other things to factor in such as playing DVDs, screen
brightness, and wireless status activity.
The laptop to look for (if you really need it now), then will be based on a
Centrino Duo platform. "Centrino Duo" is just a platform made out of 3
components: A Intel based processor, A Intel based chipset and a Intel based
wireless network adapter.
But it does not mean by getting any laptop with a "Centrino Duo"
sticker indicates your getting the latest technology. To verify that you have
the latest you'll have to look into the specs when purchasing your
system.
The current Centrino Duo is based on the Santa Rosa plaform and that contains a
Intel processor based on the Merom Core. The FSB operating on that is 800fsb and
they are using the 65nm process.
If you can wait, then wait until the new Centrion Duo plaform arrives which also
contains a Intel based processor but instead of using the Merom core, it's based
on the Penryn architecture and it steams on the 1066 front side bus built on the
new 45nm process.
Quote by shinshinoviAnything but a PC
equipped with LCD monitor. Go with CRT, since CRTs retain details. Well, if you
want otherwise, go with LCD.
Try something equipped with Intel Core Duo. They say it's
fast.
Actually LCD Displays are pretty much the way to go with today's newer PCs. LCDs
today tend to have very fast response times and very little to no ghosting
evident when you either play games on them or watch videos on them.
As far as the system itself, go with an Intel Core 2 Duo system, and a single
GeForce 8800 GTS/GTX will probably suit your gaming needs. You will most likely
need a minimum of 2GB of RAM. Also, one thing to not overlook is the size/speed
of your harddrives. Try and build a system with SATA2 based hard drives that run
at 7200rpm and have 8mb or 16mb of cache. There are many great motherboard
manufacturers out there, from ASUS, ABIT, DFI, Gigabyte, etc. Just make sure the
components you purchase are all compatible with the motherboard you purchase. I
am an advocate for building your own machine instead of buying one from a major
box manufacturer. I have been building my own machines since the early 90s. The
one exception to that rule is laptops. If you decide to go with a laptop then
most of the major PC builders out there produce a decent laptop including, Dell,
HP, Toshiba, Fujitsu, etc. And there is always the non-PC choice Apple.
Could look into building your own. from newegg you can build one for half of the
price of a store bought. This is of course the case most of the time, sometimes
you can find a better deal elsewhere. Just dont go alienware, i built a comp for
half of the price with more bells and whistles on newegg.
Processor: Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9750
Motherboard: Asus Maximus Extreme
Video Card: Nvidia 9800gx2
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8gb DDR3 1600
Hard Disk: Seagate Barracuda 1000gb SATA 32mb cache
(2x) Western Digital Raptor X 150gb
Optical Drive: Sony BWU-100A Blu-Ray DVDRW
ATX Casing: Thermaltake Armor+ Super Tower VH6000BWS
Power Supply Unit: OCZ ProXStream 1000 Watt
LCD Monitor: ASUS MK241H Black 24" 2ms HDMI Widescreen
Keyboard: Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse
Speaker: Logitech G51 Gaming Surround
Operating System: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit
About the ATX case, it's your own choice, I only post Thermaltake Armor because
of their killer looks!
Just add some liquid cooling in the case, use other CPU cooler instead of stock
cooling & use high-end sound card.
merged: 04-10-2008 ~ 05:53pm
About the hard drives, use the Western Digital Raptor X for programs, OS &
games for faster loading times. Use the Seagate Barracuda 1000gb for storage
only (mp3, videos, pics).
Sweet, I like the design of that,
I got myself a Dual core though, thanks for the info btw tiki,
I only need to add it a high powered graphic card and I'll be good.
Yeah ether I'd look into building your own, it's much cheaper and you can make
it as fast as you want. Someone said Newegg.com is a great place to look for the
cheap parts.
Stick with the Intel Core 2 Duo atleast 2.4ghz I'd say, 3gb RAM, 500gb HDD,
DVD+-RW/DL drive which is pretty much standard anymore. Also the Nvidia 8800gt
(S,X or OC all are great) for all your gaming needs, I wouldn't worry about
doing SLI you won't really need it.
I tell ya, I bought a Dell which I like just fine and it came with all of the
above except the 8800 GT OC, but when I bought it with the computer it ran me
about $1000 USD. I think thats pretty cheap and the computer runs awesome.
Forgot to say I had to buy a new PSU for the graphics card, but it was still
about $1000 USD even so.
Quote by ether92Sweet, I like the design
of that,
I got myself a Dual core though, thanks for the info btw tiki,
I only need to add it a high powered graphic card and I'll be good.
AMD(ATi)
value: HD 2400/Pro/XT, HD 3450/3470
Mid range: HD 2600/Pro/XT, HD 3650/3850
Highend: HD 2900Pro/GT/XT/ XT 1GB HD 3870
Ultra highend: HD 3870 X2, HD 3850 X3 (Asus Trinity)
Most of the peoples comments are correct the Duo Core is pretty awesome, but
getting high end PC is better built alone which will cost ALOT of money
xD
But DarkIngram has a pretty awesome setup which allows nice upgrades in the
future
Hm, you say you want to run games with it, as for a monitor as mentioned farther
up i HIGHLY reccomend trinitron for CRT, for LCD usually samsungs are pretty
good. as for the computer WHAT EVER YOU DO DONT BUY DELL, if you ever want to
upgrade a dell its virtually impossible due to their insane totally non existent
form factor. I would also recommend ailenware they are easily upgradable and are
usually extremely powerful, but if you really want to go overboard get one of
intels dual cores and get a liquid cooling system and take its clock speed
through the roof
OK, I'll make this simple,
I'm gonna get a new PC very soon, but since I'm quite clueless when it come to know the best one to get, I will ask you my comrades, some of you may have the knowledge that I lack,
here are some of the things that I want on my new PC and I don't really care about the price:
1. Ultimate Speed
2. Super Powerful graphic card
2. Lots of RAM to spare
the thing is, I want a PC powerful enough to play Love Death 2 in full capacity, without cutting any details or have to wait fior the darn thing to load,
the thing is, well, just let me know wich PC brand is the most powerful around nowdays
thank you in advance.
Anything but a PC equipped with LCD monitor. Go with CRT, since CRTs retain details. Well, if you want otherwise, go with LCD.
Try something equipped with Intel Core Duo. They say it's fast.
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad or AMD Phenom
Video Card: GeForce 8800 Ultra x2 for SLI setup
I don't know much about motherboards, but it's obvious you're gonna need one that supports the above.
A machine to be fast really depends on the application that's code for it.
If you want the fastest speed today, then go with a dual core like a
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400. The E8400 is buiilt on the new 45nm process, with high-K technology, runs a 3GHz, has a 1333fsb and comes with 6mb of cache as compare to a puny 4mb on the E6000 series.
If you want to future proof your system, then go with a quad core like the Intel Core 2 Quad. The Q6600 is the older quad which runs at 2.4GHz, with 4mb of L2 cache and chungs alonge the 1066 Front side bus.
Since the E8400 is a dual core, but with the speed it operates with today's applications the dual core will out perform a quad. When the time comes and programers starts to take use of the additional 2 cores found on the quad then a quad will surly beat the hell of a dual.
The new desktop based quads from Intel, the Q9000* series are not out yet but they should be out soon. It all similar to the E8000 series except it has 12mb of L2 cache twice of that for a dual core.
Most consumer boards these days can go up to 8gb, you'll have to take a look at the specs to verify. In order to go up to 8gb you'll have to use a 64bit OS where as a 32bit can only go up to 4gb.** Go with DDR2 for now as for DDR3 the price is just ridiculous.
Gaming really depends on how far your willing to reach. For most people, a single graphic card provides more than enough raw performace for most of today's games. If you want to play in full details on a large screen monitor like a 24" up to 30 then you can opt for a 2nd graphic card, like Nvidia SLI or AMD CrossFire.
Also game must be written to support a dual or triple graphic card setup otherwise it will not take advantage of it.
The fastest performing card today is the 8800Ultra, but you have to pay a premium just to have it. The best card for it's performace and money is the 8800gt with cost around $300USD and is faster than the old 8800gts that cost around $450USD. There is a new 8800gts called the 8800gts G92 and it's faster than the 8800gt. The new 8800gts G92 has pure video HD a hardware encoder that was not present on the old 8800gts. This helps elimiate processor resource usage when watching high-def movies like HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.***
* The Extreme Editon is not includes and the Q9300 only has 6mb of L2 cache as compare to 12mb on the other new quads.
** A 32bit OS only support up to 4gb, but with its roof limit you may see less than that. On some systems you see 3.2gb or even less as low as 2GB.
*** According to articles around the web Toshiba has decided to pull the plug on their HD-DVD format. So it look like Sony's Blu-Ray is the next gen format.]
As for the Phenom, they got serious issues so I wouldn't recommend that.
For SLI or CrossFire you must have a board that support it. Also they are not compatible with each other.
*whistle*
thats some nice info you got there, dood, thanks a lot.
No comment.
Interesting...
Now... May I ask which laptop is the best to get? I really want to know.
Again that depends on what your planning to use it for. If your a frequent traveler then you'll need something that's light and has a longer laster battery life, but small machines comes at a price. The price to pay is they operate at a slower speed because slower parts uses less energy and thus uses less battery life.
Of course they are other things to factor in such as playing DVDs, screen brightness, and wireless status activity.
The laptop to look for (if you really need it now), then will be based on a Centrino Duo platform. "Centrino Duo" is just a platform made out of 3 components: A Intel based processor, A Intel based chipset and a Intel based wireless network adapter.
But it does not mean by getting any laptop with a "Centrino Duo" sticker indicates your getting the latest technology. To verify that you have the latest you'll have to look into the specs when purchasing your system.
The current Centrino Duo is based on the Santa Rosa plaform and that contains a Intel processor based on the Merom Core. The FSB operating on that is 800fsb and they are using the 65nm process.
If you can wait, then wait until the new Centrion Duo plaform arrives which also contains a Intel based processor but instead of using the Merom core, it's based on the Penryn architecture and it steams on the 1066 front side bus built on the new 45nm process.
Then get the f*** out...
Contect Alienware for you new PC, or you can build it yourself. The speed of computer has no limit.
Actually LCD Displays are pretty much the way to go with today's newer PCs. LCDs today tend to have very fast response times and very little to no ghosting evident when you either play games on them or watch videos on them.
As far as the system itself, go with an Intel Core 2 Duo system, and a single GeForce 8800 GTS/GTX will probably suit your gaming needs. You will most likely need a minimum of 2GB of RAM. Also, one thing to not overlook is the size/speed of your harddrives. Try and build a system with SATA2 based hard drives that run at 7200rpm and have 8mb or 16mb of cache. There are many great motherboard manufacturers out there, from ASUS, ABIT, DFI, Gigabyte, etc. Just make sure the components you purchase are all compatible with the motherboard you purchase. I am an advocate for building your own machine instead of buying one from a major box manufacturer. I have been building my own machines since the early 90s. The one exception to that rule is laptops. If you decide to go with a laptop then most of the major PC builders out there produce a decent laptop including, Dell, HP, Toshiba, Fujitsu, etc. And there is always the non-PC choice Apple.
Good luck!
Could look into building your own. from newegg you can build one for half of the price of a store bought. This is of course the case most of the time, sometimes you can find a better deal elsewhere. Just dont go alienware, i built a comp for half of the price with more bells and whistles on newegg.
Processor: Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9750
Motherboard: Asus Maximus Extreme
Video Card: Nvidia 9800gx2
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8gb DDR3 1600
Hard Disk: Seagate Barracuda 1000gb SATA 32mb cache
(2x) Western Digital Raptor X 150gb
Optical Drive: Sony BWU-100A Blu-Ray DVDRW
ATX Casing: Thermaltake Armor+ Super Tower VH6000BWS
Power Supply Unit: OCZ ProXStream 1000 Watt
LCD Monitor: ASUS MK241H Black 24" 2ms HDMI Widescreen
Keyboard: Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse
Speaker: Logitech G51 Gaming Surround
Operating System: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit
About the ATX case, it's your own choice, I only post Thermaltake Armor because of their killer looks!
Just add some liquid cooling in the case, use other CPU cooler instead of stock cooling & use high-end sound card.
merged: 04-10-2008 ~ 05:53pm
About the hard drives, use the Western Digital Raptor X for programs, OS & games for faster loading times. Use the Seagate Barracuda 1000gb for storage only (mp3, videos, pics).
It's QX9770 or QX9775
The 0 is for SP single processor (socket 775)
The 5 is for DP dual processor (socket 771)
For QX9775
Sweet, I like the design of that,
I got myself a Dual core though, thanks for the info btw tiki,
I only need to add it a high powered graphic card and I'll be good.
Yeah ether I'd look into building your own, it's much cheaper and you can make it as fast as you want. Someone said Newegg.com is a great place to look for the cheap parts.
Stick with the Intel Core 2 Duo atleast 2.4ghz I'd say, 3gb RAM, 500gb HDD, DVD+-RW/DL drive which is pretty much standard anymore. Also the Nvidia 8800gt (S,X or OC all are great) for all your gaming needs, I wouldn't worry about doing SLI you won't really need it.
I tell ya, I bought a Dell which I like just fine and it came with all of the above except the 8800 GT OC, but when I bought it with the computer it ran me about $1000 USD. I think thats pretty cheap and the computer runs awesome. Forgot to say I had to buy a new PSU for the graphics card, but it was still about $1000 USD even so.
Graphic cards...
[b]Nvidia[/b]
Value: 8400gs, 8500gt, 8600gt
Mid range: 8600gts, 8800gs, 8800gts, 9600gt
Highend: 8800gt, 8800gts G92, 8800gtx, 8800Ultra, 9800gtx
Ultra highend: 9800gx2
AMD(ATi)
value: HD 2400/Pro/XT, HD 3450/3470
Mid range: HD 2600/Pro/XT, HD 3650/3850
Highend: HD 2900Pro/GT/XT/ XT 1GB HD 3870
Ultra highend: HD 3870 X2, HD 3850 X3 (Asus Trinity)
Asus Trinity:
source: http://tinyurl.com/2r3a8d
9800gx2: The fancy leds are not for show. They're there for a purpose.
source: http://tinyurl.com/3amlym
I say build the computer yourself. The Nvidia 9800 GX2 by EGVA is probobly the fastest card, even faster then BFG.
Most of the peoples comments are correct the Duo Core is pretty awesome, but getting high end PC is better built alone which will cost ALOT of money xD
But DarkIngram has a pretty awesome setup which allows nice upgrades in the future
I like those brand, i just don't like the price.
for me, I'll choose XFX for my budget. 
Hm, you say you want to run games with it, as for a monitor as mentioned farther up i HIGHLY reccomend trinitron for CRT, for LCD usually samsungs are pretty good. as for the computer WHAT EVER YOU DO DONT BUY DELL, if you ever want to upgrade a dell its virtually impossible due to their insane totally non existent form factor. I would also recommend ailenware they are easily upgradable and are usually extremely powerful, but if you really want to go overboard get one of intels dual cores and get a liquid cooling system and take its clock speed through the roof
A noble cause. I didn't even bother downloading Love Death 2 cause I knew it wouldn't run on my system (I have a laptop).