Go Nader.... i'm kidding. Kerry will win, or so I hope, we'll see by tuesday
evening/wednesday morning. I'll be voting after school ends.. hopefully the
lines won't be too long.
Quote by miketoI'm just sick to my stomach
today.See you in Canada, Syringe.
We can start an MT commune, and have a communal NaNoWriMo room for
encouragement. It was close. Kerry fought hard. Lots of people fought hard for
him. He's still working for all of us, even though he's not President.
Clever, no one else has noted the backwards spelling.
I don't know whether to cry or be sick. See you in Canada, Miketo.
Quote by egnirysWe can start an MT
commune, and have a communal NaNoWriMo room for
encouragement.
You're on the same wavelength as I am. I was thinking of getting my friends to
move with me to Canada, maybe the west coast of Vancouver Island, where we could
all hang out, do our creative gigs, and get together for dinner and creative
encouragement.
All I know is, there has to be a better place than a Bush-led US somewhere.
There *has* to be.
Wow everyone seems to be really against Bush here....i think it is a popular
thing for people around our age not to like him, but that's not the case with
me. Because of Bush thousands of terrorist groups and cells have been
eliminated, Sadam Hussein has been captured, and Iraq is on the road to
recovery. I'd also like to remind everyone that Saddam Hussein butchered his
own people using experimental gas and other forms of biological weapons. Women
were killed on site if they did not have a veil in front of their face. What
really is funny to me is people who are against Bush always resort to the
"He rushed into the war" line. The fact is for over 10 years there
has been conflict in the Middle East. During Clinton's presidency the effort to
combat terrorism was laughable at best. Clinton's approach to send cruise
missles over to eliminate threats was ineffective and several accounts have
proven several attacks to be on asprin factories. The World Trade Center was
attacked before sept 11...the place was bombed during Clinton's presidency.
When Sept 11 came the nation turned into a state of confusion, anger, and fear.
Bush led the country into forming a coalition of the willing that would help to
minimize the threat of such attack ever happening again on American soil. His
promise was to stop terrorism in any way shape or form. This included
Biological research and proliferation, terrorists themselves, and those that
harbor terrorists.
Saddam Hussein has been a proven financer of terrorist activities and there is
traceable evidence that he helped to fund the same terrorist groups led by Osama
Bin Laden. Peaceful resolution was totally possible, and totally dependent on
Saddam Hussein himself. We went through 18 United Nations resolutions in order
to achieve a peaceful resolution in Iraq and what it came down to (As agreed to
by the UN) was to create an ultimatum to Saddam Hussein: Let us come into the
country with inspectors immediately, give us documented proof that his weapons
were destroyed, and hand over his biological weapons of mass destruction. Think
about it people, if Saddam truly did not have any weapons, then he would have
openly let the inspectors come in and survey the scene. The fact that he would
not allow these conditions to be met was his last great mistake.
To all who took the time to read this i thank you. I want everyone to know that
i respect all the previously posted opinions. I usually try to stay away from
political discussions but i felt compelled to respond to this one. This might
spark interesting replys and debates, which is always the best part of political
discussions. Anyway this is my opinion and I hope you can respect this as well.
Quote by Keougho.O i guess it will sadly i
cant vote *sigh* but we did do an mock election at mai
school.
really...odd so did we in our government class.....wonder if its possible that u
go to my school....and yea i think most young ppl today are mostly democratic
and very liberal...so i guess its natural for young people to hate bush and i do
too...buh that dun help much since we can vote...buh ppl beware...when we come
out there will be a wave of democrats
Quote by miketoYou're on the same
wavelength as I am. I was thinking of getting my friends to move with me to
Canada, maybe the west coast of Vancouver Island, where we could all hang out,
do our creative gigs, and get together for dinner and creative encouragement.
All I know is, there has to be a better place than a Bush-led US somewhere.
There *has* to be.
I'll send you my address once I find it.
Looking at things from a different direction, the Republicans would be pretty
happy if all the Democrats left the country. Thinking about that, however, I'd
love to live in an artist's commune.
I can even cook. Just... be prepared for lots of scrambled eggs, grilled cheese,
lentil soup and pasta. It's about all I've mastered. ' Or
hope we have the food network. ^_^
Quote by egnirysI'd love to live in an
artist's commune. I can even cook. Just... be prepared for lots of scrambled
eggs, grilled cheese, lentil soup and pasta. It's about all I've mastered.
-_-' Or hope we have the food network. ^_^
No worries. I'm a pretty good cook and I eat anything that can't outrun me. If
you're a vegetarian, I may have to sneak off for a hamburger or steak every once
in a while -- I like my protein from recently-dead animals.
Quote by miketoNo worries. I'm a pretty
good cook and I eat anything that can't outrun me. If you're a vegetarian, I
may have to sneak off for a hamburger or steak every once in a while -- I like
my protein from recently-dead animals.
Hamburgers? No, I'd expect you to make me one. This goes for steak too. I'm no
vegetarian. I like it when my food either used to moo, cluck or oink. As long as
it doesn't do it while it's on my plate, we're all good.
Edit: Maybe we should take this to PM, it might be getting rather spammy.
Quote by egnirysWe can start an MT
commune, and have a communal
NaNoWriMo room for
encouragement.
You're on the same wavelength as I am. I was thinking of getting my
friends to move with me to Canada, maybe the west coast of Vancouver
Island, where we could all hang out, do our creative gigs, and get
together for dinner and creative encouragement.
All I know is, there has to be a better place than a Bush-led US
somewhere. There *has* to be.
I'll send you my address once I find it.
Canada is a great place to live though File sharing is legal cuz of privacy laws
^^
i really wished that Kerry would've won. Bush well i disliek him for his
policie snad many of his actions and reasons for those actions.
Despite Bin Laden being a terrorist mastermind the video he had aired had some
substance to it.. =.=
Quote by TwistedGTXCanada is a great
place to live though File sharing is legal cuz of privacy laws ^^
i really wished that Kerry would've won. Bush well i disliek him for his
policie snad many of his actions and reasons for those actions.
Despite Bin Laden being a terrorist mastermind the video he had aired had some
substance to it.. =.=
I wish Kerry would have won too, but I think that's obvious. I dislike Bush for
many reasons, and I already think he's full of shit with many of the things he
says. Especially to the people who voted against him, asking for their respect
is way too far over the line.
Bin Laden was never captured cos he's got connections to the Bush family, and
has funded Bush Jr.'s past business ventures.
Quote by groovybluesgirlWell I'll
be the odd ball of the group ^_^
I'm glad Bush won and that we have him as president for another four
years.
I wouldn't say you're the oddball. You agree with 51% of the country. Some of us
are simply born democrats/liberals. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I
would never slag anyone off for it, even if I didn't agree.
Because it's obvious now that he's starting his second term, I hope he can do
better this time around. I was very disappointed with his first term. I'm a very
liberal democrat, but I can see some things about Bush that not all democrats
want to admit.
I don't think he will really try and get Roe vs. Wade overturned. He may not
agree with it, but I don't think he would go that far, or he may be advised not
to go that far. I don't support his attempted ban on gay marriage, because
marriage is about love, not gender.
I don't think this war is right, and I don't think his intentions were pure from
the beginning. But no one has pure intentions anymore, society has warped people
so that's really no longer possible.
I do wish he would listen when the people of Iraq are saying this war is
destroying their country. I wish he would listen to the people of his own
country when they say the same. He's destroyed our education system, and taken
away the grants that help students pay for college. His daughters will never
have that problem. Then again, neither would Kerry's. But he's not trying to cut
Pell Grants.
I was watching Bush at home on TV last night. He was calling his dog, and his
dog wouldn't come. It's no wonder, he's dropped the poor animal on it's head.
Twice. '
Bush has been able to empathize with the American public, he was elected.
So I think that we all need to stop moping about how Kerry didn't win.
Whether we like it or not, all the energy we are putting into regret over the
outcome of this election could be better spent supporting the troops that are
over in the Middle East protecting out butts.
Their the ones that could really use our support right now and I hope that we
can come together and give them that support.
Quote by groovybluesgirlBush has
been able to empathize with the American public, he was elected.
So I think that we all need to stop moping about how Kerry didn't win.
Whether we like it or not, all the energy we are putting into regret over the
outcome of this election could be better spent supporting the troops that are
over in the Middle East protecting out butts.
Their the ones that could really use our support right now and I hope that we
can come together and give them that support.
I think it's a little presumptuous of you to assume that no one supports the
troops in the Middle East just cos they don't support the war. No, I don't
support the war, but I do support the people fighting. I don't think they should
be there, but I support them. I do think that Bush mistakes supporting the
troops he's sent over there for supporting the war.
Quote by groovybluesgirlBush has
been able to empathize with the American public, he was elected.
So I think that we all need to stop moping about how Kerry didn't win.
Whether we like it or not, all the energy we are putting into regret over the
outcome of this election could be better spent supporting the troops that are
over in the Middle East protecting out butts.
Their the ones that could really use our support right now and I hope that we
can come together and give them that support.
I think it's a little presumptuous of you to assume that no one supports the
troops in the Middle East just cos they don't support the war. No, I don't
support the war, but I do support the people fighting. I don't think they should
be there, but I support them. I do think that Bush mistakes supporting the
troops he's sent over there for supporting the war.
You might note that I never said that, no one did or did not support the
troops.
What I'm saying is that I hope that "more" people will spend more of
there energy on doing that.
Quote by groovybluesgirlYou might
note that I never said that, no one did or did not support the troops.
What I'm saying is that I hope that "more" people will spend more of
there energy on doing that.
That's really not how you made it sound. You told people to stop moping cos the
candidate they voted for and possibly put time and effort into getting elected
didn't. And then said they should support troops instead. I think that's exactly
what you were saying, and it's very rude for you to presume you know everything
that goes through everyone's head. You can't possibly make a generalization like
that because you don't know who or what anyone supports except yourself. Go back
and read your posts. That's pretty much what you said. See here:
Quote by groovybluesgirlWhether
we like it or not, all the energy we are putting into regret over the outcome of
this election could be better spent supporting the troops that are over in the
Middle East protecting out butts.
I don't know why you think saying that means you aren't saying that people are
or aren't supporting the troops fighting in the Middle East. I could care less
what you think you're saying, but what you're actually saying is very different.
You aren't looking at your words from anyone's perspective but your own.
^_^
look, We obviously disagree on this and I'm not going to fight with you about
it.
Are fighting about who did or didn't say what is stupid.
If what I wrote sounded that way to you, fine.
I'm sorry it came out sounding that way, it surly was not ment to.
I in no way intended to imply, that no one was being supportive of the
troops.
So shall we barry the hatchet and move on?
truse? ^_^
it starts in 4 and a half hours...
discuss it here so the forum doesn't get flooded with updates.
no politicking within 100 feet of the polling place please.
o.O i guess it will sadly i cant vote *sigh* but we did do an mock election at mai school.
I'm not registered. No matter, I don't really care for either of the candidates.
Nor do I really care who the president is...oh well!
Though I believe in more of Bush's ideals, I think Kerry will win because of the way Bush handled things with the "War on Terrorism" (cough Iraq)
Bush huh? why dont you take a look at the shoutbox, Nuriko's link...this is the Bush I know, able to show me another one?
Go Nader.... i'm kidding. Kerry will win, or so I hope, we'll see by tuesday evening/wednesday morning. I'll be voting after school ends.. hopefully the lines won't be too long.
Well, I've got the news on and Kerry's about to make his concession speech. Bush gets another four years, and I plot ways to move to Canada.
'
I'm just sick to my stomach today.
See you in Canada, Syringe.
We can start an MT commune, and have a communal NaNoWriMo room for encouragement. It was close. Kerry fought hard. Lots of people fought hard for him. He's still working for all of us, even though he's not President.
Clever, no one else has noted the backwards spelling.
I don't know whether to cry or be sick. See you in Canada, Miketo.
You're on the same wavelength as I am. I was thinking of getting my friends to move with me to Canada, maybe the west coast of Vancouver Island, where we could all hang out, do our creative gigs, and get together for dinner and creative encouragement.
All I know is, there has to be a better place than a Bush-led US somewhere. There *has* to be.
I'll send you my address once I find it.
Wow everyone seems to be really against Bush here....i think it is a popular thing for people around our age not to like him, but that's not the case with me. Because of Bush thousands of terrorist groups and cells have been eliminated, Sadam Hussein has been captured, and Iraq is on the road to recovery. I'd also like to remind everyone that Saddam Hussein butchered his own people using experimental gas and other forms of biological weapons. Women were killed on site if they did not have a veil in front of their face. What really is funny to me is people who are against Bush always resort to the "He rushed into the war" line. The fact is for over 10 years there has been conflict in the Middle East. During Clinton's presidency the effort to combat terrorism was laughable at best. Clinton's approach to send cruise missles over to eliminate threats was ineffective and several accounts have proven several attacks to be on asprin factories. The World Trade Center was attacked before sept 11...the place was bombed during Clinton's presidency. When Sept 11 came the nation turned into a state of confusion, anger, and fear. Bush led the country into forming a coalition of the willing that would help to minimize the threat of such attack ever happening again on American soil. His promise was to stop terrorism in any way shape or form. This included Biological research and proliferation, terrorists themselves, and those that harbor terrorists.
Saddam Hussein has been a proven financer of terrorist activities and there is traceable evidence that he helped to fund the same terrorist groups led by Osama Bin Laden. Peaceful resolution was totally possible, and totally dependent on Saddam Hussein himself. We went through 18 United Nations resolutions in order to achieve a peaceful resolution in Iraq and what it came down to (As agreed to by the UN) was to create an ultimatum to Saddam Hussein: Let us come into the country with inspectors immediately, give us documented proof that his weapons were destroyed, and hand over his biological weapons of mass destruction. Think about it people, if Saddam truly did not have any weapons, then he would have openly let the inspectors come in and survey the scene. The fact that he would not allow these conditions to be met was his last great mistake.
To all who took the time to read this i thank you. I want everyone to know that i respect all the previously posted opinions. I usually try to stay away from political discussions but i felt compelled to respond to this one. This might spark interesting replys and debates, which is always the best part of political discussions. Anyway this is my opinion and I hope you can respect this as well.
really...odd so did we in our government class.....wonder if its possible that u go to my school....and yea i think most young ppl today are mostly democratic and very liberal...so i guess its natural for young people to hate bush and i do too...buh that dun help much since we can vote...buh ppl beware...when we come out there will be a wave of democrats
Looking at things from a different direction, the Republicans would be pretty happy if all the Democrats left the country. Thinking about that, however, I'd love to live in an artist's commune.
I can even cook. Just... be prepared for lots of scrambled eggs, grilled cheese, lentil soup and pasta. It's about all I've mastered.
' Or
hope we have the food network. ^_^
No worries. I'm a pretty good cook and I eat anything that can't outrun me. If you're a vegetarian, I may have to sneak off for a hamburger or steak every once in a while -- I like my protein from recently-dead animals.
Hamburgers? No, I'd expect you to make me one. This goes for steak too. I'm no vegetarian. I like it when my food either used to moo, cluck or oink. As long as it doesn't do it while it's on my plate, we're all good.
Edit: Maybe we should take this to PM, it might be getting rather spammy.
Canada is a great place to live though File sharing is legal cuz of privacy laws ^^
i really wished that Kerry would've won. Bush well i disliek him for his policie snad many of his actions and reasons for those actions.
Despite Bin Laden being a terrorist mastermind the video he had aired had some substance to it.. =.=
I wish Kerry would have won too, but I think that's obvious. I dislike Bush for many reasons, and I already think he's full of shit with many of the things he says. Especially to the people who voted against him, asking for their respect is way too far over the line.
Bin Laden was never captured cos he's got connections to the Bush family, and has funded Bush Jr.'s past business ventures.
Well I'll be the odd ball of the group ^_^
I'm glad Bush won and that we have him as president for another four years.
I wouldn't say you're the oddball. You agree with 51% of the country. Some of us are simply born democrats/liberals. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I would never slag anyone off for it, even if I didn't agree.
Because it's obvious now that he's starting his second term, I hope he can do better this time around. I was very disappointed with his first term. I'm a very liberal democrat, but I can see some things about Bush that not all democrats want to admit.
I don't think he will really try and get Roe vs. Wade overturned. He may not agree with it, but I don't think he would go that far, or he may be advised not to go that far. I don't support his attempted ban on gay marriage, because marriage is about love, not gender.
I don't think this war is right, and I don't think his intentions were pure from the beginning. But no one has pure intentions anymore, society has warped people so that's really no longer possible.
I do wish he would listen when the people of Iraq are saying this war is destroying their country. I wish he would listen to the people of his own country when they say the same. He's destroyed our education system, and taken away the grants that help students pay for college. His daughters will never have that problem. Then again, neither would Kerry's. But he's not trying to cut Pell Grants.
I was watching Bush at home on TV last night. He was calling his dog, and his dog wouldn't come. It's no wonder, he's dropped the poor animal on it's head. Twice.
'
Bush has been able to empathize with the American public, he was elected.
So I think that we all need to stop moping about how Kerry didn't win.
Whether we like it or not, all the energy we are putting into regret over the outcome of this election could be better spent supporting the troops that are over in the Middle East protecting out butts.
Their the ones that could really use our support right now and I hope that we can come together and give them that support.
I think it's a little presumptuous of you to assume that no one supports the troops in the Middle East just cos they don't support the war. No, I don't support the war, but I do support the people fighting. I don't think they should be there, but I support them. I do think that Bush mistakes supporting the troops he's sent over there for supporting the war.
You might note that I never said that, no one did or did not support the troops.
What I'm saying is that I hope that "more" people will spend more of there energy on doing that.
That's really not how you made it sound. You told people to stop moping cos the candidate they voted for and possibly put time and effort into getting elected didn't. And then said they should support troops instead. I think that's exactly what you were saying, and it's very rude for you to presume you know everything that goes through everyone's head. You can't possibly make a generalization like that because you don't know who or what anyone supports except yourself. Go back and read your posts. That's pretty much what you said. See here:
I don't know why you think saying that means you aren't saying that people are or aren't supporting the troops fighting in the Middle East. I could care less what you think you're saying, but what you're actually saying is very different. You aren't looking at your words from anyone's perspective but your own.
^_^
look, We obviously disagree on this and I'm not going to fight with you about it.
Are fighting about who did or didn't say what is stupid.
If what I wrote sounded that way to you, fine.
I'm sorry it came out sounding that way, it surly was not ment to.
I in no way intended to imply, that no one was being supportive of the troops.
So shall we barry the hatchet and move on?
truse? ^_^