So ... now "Bush Warmonger " & "Darth Chaney" have
regain the "American Force" and on the same time make it THAT MUCH
more powerful!
"Republican now Completely overkills the the Loserats on the House of
Senate and with the Leader of the Supreme council "Supreme Court" is
steping down which "Bush Warmonger " & "Darth Chaney"
can now pick another Leader to lead the council into further Evil. lol."
What do think it'll happen next?
Can the republic continue to be under "Bush Warmonger " &
"Darth Chaney" stop its evil ways, lol, and can the corrupt and
mislead the Trade federation. "Corp and working class america" found
victory under this iron fist of the republic? lol... hahaha.... oh man....
"now all we need is the star wars music playing on the bg. lol....
So whats do you guys think of the future of this great land we call america for
the next 4 years? Super/Great/Good/ Bad/Horror/Terror ?
Just because our president is Bush doesnt mean we are all going to die. Bush has
been a president before and we obviously werent obliterated in the past four
years. People need to stop bitching about how the world will end with bush in
office. People need to face the fact that America is only a country. It will
fall just like everyother country. It will end sooner or later and nothing can
stop that. Its the natural course of history and just because bush is president
doesnt mean we will die. We have the same chance under Kerry that we could all
sponateously combust. The only reason bush was elected president was that people
who wanted kerry decided not to vote, or to vote against him because he looks
like hes melting. Its a sad sad world we live in now...
Quote by Vivid-ReinWhat the hell are
you smoking?
Just because our president is Bush doesnt mean we are all going to die.
Bush has been a president before and we obviously werent obliterated in
the past four years. People need to stop bitching about how the world
will end with bush in office. People need to face the fact that America
is only a country. It will fall just like everyother country. It will
end sooner or later and nothing can stop that. Its the natural course
of history and just because bush is president doesnt mean we will die.
We have the same chance under Kerry that we could all sponateously
combust. The only reason bush was elected president was that people who
wanted kerry decided not to vote, or to vote against him because he
looks like hes melting. Its a sad sad world we live in
now...
dude first claim down. I ain't smoking nothin, its just some facts. Our nation
is divided, and the last thing we need is someone goes off the top. and another thing, if you read what I said, "as you can see I'm trying
to come out a bit on the funny side, not going at all serious here"... I'm
more looking on the direction of NOW Republicans have Even more power towards
all 3 houses. Which means Democrats turns from NO Power to even more NO Power!
and with large % of the american ppl as more liberal then conservative.
ex: working middle / lower class is almost always more liberal then
conservative, & upper / upper middle class is almost always more
conservative than liberal.
But of course conservative is running the country almost entirely now... I was
hoping ppl would think about that..... I think will US gets better now on the
fact that the "One party" holds all the vote power, money, and jobs
for our future.
Sorry man, but like Cy quoted his friend, the two things that usually get people
angered are politics and religion. Your "humor" actually kinda
insulted me.
Quote: upper class holds all the
vote power money
Alright man... You don't happen to realize a fundamental law of math and
economics, do you? Bush relieved equal tax percentages all around. In other
words, everyone got the same percentage back. It just so happens that the rich are richer, and because of an equal
percentage tax break, they get more money back than the "less
fortunate" do.
I'm middle class, and conservative. It's not unusual to find a roughly equal
percentage of liberal and conservative middle class. Why? Well take a look at
who has always been historically dominant as the middle class... Jews! Yup,
that's right, Jews. And typically, Jews are conservative. (And
this of no offense to Jews, my mother's Jewish)
Why do people think Bush will ruin this country. There have been far worse
presidents that didn't do crap for the U.S. and just drove it into the ground.
Bush is a better president than Kerry will ever be. Kerry isn't very charismatic
and very boring. Bush handled 9/11 very well. If Al Gore was president, he
probably would have done nothing but stay on the defense and Kerry would have
declared to get Osama and then say nevermind. He won't do it again. People need
to realize Bush is a good president. Some people say we should get other
countries that harbor the terrorists. Iraq, though it wasn't a big threat to the
u.s., it was a pretty good place to take strategically. It is basically in the
center of the Middle Eastern countries. If we attacked Saudi Arabia first, where
Bin Laden's family lives, we would have the highest gas prices in history. Saudi
Arabia is the biggest supplier of oil in OPEC to the U.S. You people that hate
Bush should stop your PMSing. If you want something done your way, then go run
for president when you're eligible. Christ.
Quote by Vagrant123As my mother would
say, "We won't know if he was a good president or not until at least 50
years from now."
My history teacher has told me that many times too, and the same with any
historical event. Who knows, maybe something that Bush did actually savved our
@$$es but we just don't know it. Maybe - as horrible and horrendous as this may
sound, please don't take it the wrong way, but I'm just saying - that one of the
people killed in the war in Iraq was goinng to be the next Osama bin Laden. But
we'll never know. All we can do is just see how things unfold with what's
happened.
But yeah, I agree with The-Void, I'm quite glad with what Bush has done. Many
were glad right after 9/11 with what Bush did and said things like, "Gore
never would have done that" and such, but because Bush has stuck to what he
did in since the beginning, he gets shat on for it. I give him props to
sticking by what he believes in.
Vagrant, I didn't mean it like that everyone. My topic has nothing well
"almost nothing" to do about the Bush not fit for his presidency. I'm
more of targeting towards the ideals of an unbalance america, that Republicians
are Completely in control. The checks and balance system is no longer balance
due to the fact that all 3 houses are (R) so Bush can almost "not
entirely" but almost whatever the (R) wants to pass or gets done that can
seriously leads the country to one side, the oppose can't really do much on the
fact that they have all the power! thats what i'm tries to get at.
In any presidency, you have a good amount of oppose and good amount of pros but
in both Bushes terms, he gets good amount of the power first and almost of the
power now. Its kind of scary but it could be a good thing too. Most Bush plans
are short term fix stuff if you read his policy. So in short terms, the economy
will gets better but it won't last, but at least we know he'll kick the
terrorist ass.
I don't wana start some fire here. I was hoping for a joke but it seems ppl are
still very serious about this one.....
Well, me being a Canadian in the Americas right now, I'd have to say I'm a
little nervous with Bush in the White House again... coming from a peace-keeping
country as we've been identified as- I'm really not liking this whole [R]
overtake... not to start huge debates, obvoiusly with the whole country divided
on this one- it would be an impossible task to please everyone in this forum
0_0... all i know is that politicians lie, and im not a huge fan of them for
that- but if I was able to vote; it would'nt have been Bush...
I dont even think this forum is really running down on Bush either... its kinda
just asking how people feel about [R]'s taking over- and if they think it's good
or bad move.... personnally, I'm not thrilled at all- and neither are alot of
the kids at school where I am...
Personnally, looking back at Bush's last 4 years- I'm not confident in his
abilities... In my own opinion, i think he's an idiot with alot of money and
power whose whole campaign from what i saw was based on religion and war... two
things I don't particulary believe in.... I'm worried now that things like
abortion and drug counselling, and anything for that matter will be viewed only
in a religious sense of the presidents reasoning.... i'm not fond of this at
all....
Quote by FrostyVagrant, I didn't mean it
like that everyone. My topic has nothing well "almost nothing" to do
about the Bush not fit for his presidency. I'm more of targeting towards the
ideals of an unbalance america, that Republicians are Completely in control. The
checks and balance system is no longer balance due to the fact that all 3 houses
are (R) so Bush can almost "not entirely" but almost whatever the (R)
wants to pass or gets done that can seriously leads the country to one side, the
oppose can't really do much on the fact that they have all the power! thats what
i'm tries to get at.
In any presidency, you have a good amount of oppose and good amount of pros but
in both Bushes terms, he gets good amount of the power first and almost of the
power now. Its kind of scary but it could be a good thing too. Most Bush plans
are short term fix stuff if you read his policy. So in short terms, the economy
will gets better but it won't last, but at least we know he'll kick the
terrorist ass. xd
i don't wana start some fire here. I was hoping for a joke but it seems ppl are
still very serious about this one.....
Didn't fluster me at all Frosty- I got what you were getting at...
and for all of you Bush supporters- I'm not happy with the outcome, but i sure
hope you guys are right
I didn't read all of the earlier posts but this is a forum, it's for opinions,
so here's mine. I don't know the first thing about politics...espicially
american ones because your system is just bizare to me...but I am dissapointed
that Bush got the seat AGAIN...He was just so dam arrogant about it too (from
what I saw on tv that is) just sitting back in the White House waiting to be
elected...and Arnold in Florida throwing him a party before the final couts
we're out...
I can't judge the Americans because heck, I don't vote because I think politics
are all fixed (well this time I'm positive the elections we're...) and it's just
a really dirty buisness...sometimes I wonder if democracy works at all because
all the wrong people seem to be elected for all the wrong reasons....Judge or
dislike me if you will for what I just said...but I would have hoped that with
the past event that came wit Bush's presidentsy...the Americans would have
learned a little and not have voted for him twice because now, like or not, but
it's not just the US, the entire world has to live with Bush for 4
years....again
Quote by ElectrastarI didn't read all
of the earlier posts but this is a forum, it's for opinions, so here's mine. I
don't know the first thing about politics...espicially american ones because
your system is just bizare to me...but I am dissapointed that Bush got the seat
AGAIN...He was just so dam arrogant about it too (from what I saw on tv that is)
just sitting back in the White House waiting to be elected...and Arnold in
Florida throwing him a party before the final couts we're out...
I can't judge the Americans because heck, I don't vote because I think politics
are all fixed (well this time I'm positive the elections we're...) and it's just
a really dirty buisness...sometimes I wonder if democracy works at all because
all the wrong people seem to be elected for all the wrong reasons....Judge or
dislike me if you will for what I just said...but I would have hoped that with
the past event that came wit Bush's presidentsy...the Americans would have
learned a little and not have voted for him twice because now, like or not, but
it's not just the US, the entire world has to live with Bush for 4
years....again
so true 0_0 i was talking to some friends from back home in Canada and they were
all banging their heads together trying to figure out why the US would want
him?
you're so right tho.. it's not just the Americans who have to deal with him for
another 4 years... the rest of the world is going to be affected by him,...
that's scary...
Quote: so true 0_0 i was talking to
some friends from back home in Canada and they were all banging their heads
together trying to figure out why the US would want
him?
Because we're one of the few free nations that has a majority of conservative
voters who found Kerry's ideals and policies absurd. I believe he's supposed to
be Catholic. But he's a democrat. Something wrong with that? Yes, in fact. He's
going against his beliefs, if he has any. I really can't see what the hell Kerry
would try to do except follow the popular vote. As if the majority of people are
actually smart. *snorts*
Quote: so true 0_0 i was talking to some friends from back
home in Canada and they were all banging their heads together trying to figure
out why the US would want him?
Because we're one of the few free nations that has a majority of conservative
voters who found Kerry's ideals and policies absurd. I believe he's supposed to
be Catholic. But he's a democrat. Something wrong with that? Yes, in fact. He's
going against his beliefs, if he has any. I really can't see what the hell Kerry
would try to do except follow the popular vote. As if the majority of people are
actually smart. *snorts*
the thing is; can a president use his own beliefs of religion for all of the
people? no... for a man who says he wants to "free the world" and make
everyone have choices- isn't it ironic that he's limiting those very rights of
people who aren't catholic and what not by viewing his values over to his
choices over a nation? i really dont get this... i don't see how anyone can say
that he can't allow people to do things because HIS religion says its wrong...
who is he to say what another persons beliefs are? i just don't like that at
all...
bush hasnt screwed up too much crap yet. u cant possibly say bush is a bad
president. look at hoover. during his presidency, the depression hit and he did
nothing. he sat there thinkin it would just go away with his little saying about
Rugged Individualism. at least bush is doing something.
Quote: so true 0_0 i was talking to some friends from back
home in Canada and they were all banging their heads together trying to figure
out why the US would want him?
Because we're one of the few free nations that has a majority of conservative
voters who found Kerry's ideals and policies absurd. I believe he's supposed to
be Catholic. But he's a democrat. Something wrong with that? Yes, in fact. He's
going against his beliefs, if he has any. I really can't see what the hell Kerry
would try to do except follow the popular vote. As if the majority of people are
actually smart. *snorts*
the thing is; can a president use his own beliefs of religion for all of the
people? no... for a man who says he wants to "free the world" and make
everyone have choices- isn't it ironic that he's limiting those very rights of
people who aren't catholic and what not by viewing his values over to his
choices over a nation? i really dont get this... i don't see how anyone can say
that he can't allow people to do things because HIS religion says its wrong...
who is he to say what another persons beliefs are? i just don't like that at
all...
sooo true...just cos he got the top seat does not mean what he believes is
right.
Quote by The-Voidbush hasnt screwed up
too much crap yet. u cant possibly say bush is a
bad president. look at hoover. during his presidency, the depression
hit and he did nothing. he sat there thinkin it would just go away with
his little saying about Rugged Individualism. at least bush is doing
something.
I agree.
Stop bashing on Bush. Have you been president? Do you think you could do a
better job? He's doing what he can and that's just fine with me. Why can't a
person have beliefs and be able to govern as well? Bush has Catholic views. If
he had Atheist views, would you be complaining? No, but other people would.
Quote by The-Voidbush hasnt screwed up
too much crap yet. u cant possibly say bush is a
bad president. look at hoover. during his presidency, the depression
hit and he did nothing. he sat there thinkin it would just go away with
his little saying about Rugged Individualism. at least bush is doing
something.
My thoughts exactly. We've had far worse presidents than Bush.
Quote: the thing is; can a
president use his own beliefs of religion for all of the people? no... for a man
who says he wants to "free the world" and make everyone have choices-
isn't it ironic that he's limiting those very rights of people who aren't
catholic and what not by viewing his values over to his choices over a nation? i
really dont get this... i don't see how anyone can say that he can't allow
people to do things because HIS religion says its wrong... who is he to say what
another persons beliefs are? i just don't like that at
all...
1) He's Protestant, not Catholic. Big difference there.
2) Please display where he's limiting rights of those who aren't Christian.
Unfortunately for Muslims, it just so happens that the extremists from their
religion attacked the US, and there were bound to be obvious reprocussions
against Muslims, liberal or not. Make whatever opinion you want of the following
article: http://www.hellzkitchenserver.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1026
3) And ironically... by forcing him to not be able to force his views on you,
you're force-feeding your views on him (yay for tricky sentences). So we're back
to square one. Perhaps you don't realize, but it's pretty much not possible to
decide on social issues without bringing your religion into things. That's why I
think the president should have no say over social issues. Makes them look like
less of an ass, and it makes them do the job they should be doing.
well, i'm not overly happy that bush got back into office, but that's mostly
because he's just not that intellingent of a person. he's not really swift, and
his view of "freedom" is very strange to me. don't forget that one
man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
i voted for bush....everything kerry said sounded like he was trying to hard ?ur
trying to be the leader of our country not a salesman.....and i agree with the
war...i all most went but i choose not to go u see i choose not to ...there's no
kneed to talk shit about the prez if u do ur talking about the country if ur
talking about my country take ur ass to canada.
Quote by arkivei voted for
bush....everything kerry said sounded like he was trying to hard ?ur trying to
be the leader of our country not a salesman.....and i agree with the war...i all
most went but i choose not to go u see i choose not to ...there's no kneed to
talk shit about the prez if u do ur talking about the country if ur talking
about my country take ur ass to canada.
thing is, politics aren't about truth anymore... what politician, including Bush
and Kerry for that matter doesn't lie? unfortunatley thats the world we live
in.. thus being why they are sounding like their "selling" themselves
onto you: because they do that. I'm not a huge fan of politics because they
don't get down to what they should be doing, and all they ever do is disagree
with the other parties
Quote:
2) Please display where he's limiting rights of those who aren't Christian. 3)
And ironically... by forcing him to not be able to force his views on you,
you're force-feeding your views on him (yay for tricky sentences). So we're back
to square one. Perhaps you don't realize, but it's pretty much not possible to
decide on social issues without bringing your religion into things. That's why I
think the president should have no say over social issues. Makes them look like
less of an ass, and it makes them do the job they should be
doing.
well, i think he's limiting rights of those who are not christian when he tries
to declare laws on things like abortion and gay marrages by his own religion.
What i'm trying to say is how can you say that it's a free country which
embraces the beliefs of everyone, when everything ends up being chosen by the
presidents relgious beliefs on subjects? Kerry said "You can't take away
womens rights on abortion because of your own beliefs." We cannot make
everyone believe the same thing therefore who is one man to say you cannot
because his religion states it as a sin? i'm neither gay nor christian, and
thankfully never had to decide on abortion issues for myself personally for that
matter, but these issues are important to me because i know people who have to
deal with them every day or are fitted into these categories- and even if i
didn't- who am i to say what they in their free country can and cannot do? I'd
feel much better knowing that i lived in a country that not only accepted gay
unions between people, but realized that it's our modern culture. Who am i to
say what someones views should be? thats the beauty of the world we live in
today- we are not only allowed to express our opinions- we can vote on them-
Quote by arkive..there's no kneed to talk
shit about the prez if u do ur talking about the country if ur talking about my
country take ur ass to canada.
i dont wanna start a kerry-bush war, because i'm not ranting on about that...
i'm saying this:
well, the thing is: even if i was still in Canada, this would affect me- being
that this election wasn't only about America. When there is a war going on, the
whole world is affected by the outcomes of the particular countries involved.
this campaign was and is a world issue. I have nothing against America. I'm not
anti-american, i'm anti-Bush's views, hense why me and others are upset about
the outcome... again, obviously that doesn't matter now, being that he's been
elected for another 4 years.. i just hope you guys are right and i'm wrong about
him, because i'm not convinced he's the right man to be there.
Quote by The-Voidbush hasnt screwed up
too much crap yet. u cant possibly say bush is a
bad president. look at hoover. during his presidency, the depression
hit and he did nothing. he sat there thinkin it would just go away with
his little saying about Rugged Individualism. at least bush is doing
something.
what planet do you hail from? taking action for the sake of action is flawed.
lets be honest here. 9/11 was an incredible tragedy- action was called for.
but Iraq is and should not be the focal point. Bush has a hard on for Sadamn -
perhaps you remember a former President who goes by the name of George Bush Sr.
Pops got involved because his master the Saudi royal family's oil assets were in
danger. that war was about oil plan and simple. now the friggin idiot Jr. had
a yearning to clean up after pops, so of to iraq we go. but the problem is he
is borderline retarded and has zero tactial intelligence - so the end result
thousands of soldiers are dying in a war they shouldn't even be fighting. the
threat is bin Laden and guess what? he planning something else. oh right he's
hangin out in Afghanistan.
things are so bad in Iraq that a current exit strategy is impossible. now this
sounds kinda bad right? well guess what there's more. in Bush's quest of War
on Terror homeland security he alienated all the foreign countries whom we need
to eradicate terrorism. so the US (taxpayers) is eating the full cost of the
War in Iraq. now if another serious threat develops i dare say we are so
overextended that we may not be able to handle it adequately.
let me just say im American but i must admit im actually ashamed of the conduct
of our leaders; these freakin whores are leading us to a disaster.his country
hasn't seen this much division since Vietnam.
perhaps the RNP should adopt K.M.F.D.M.'s "Star & Stripes" as
theme song.
what other think- on nov. 4 i saw the German industrial band, kmfdm in Phila.
they were promoting their latest album dedicating to W. called wwiii. does any1
realize what a poor reputation the US has in say Europe?
Quote by The-Voidbush hasnt screwed up
too much crap yet. u cant possibly say bush is a
bad president. look at hoover. during his presidency, the depression
hit and he did nothing. he sat there thinkin it would just go away with
his little saying about Rugged Individualism. at least bush is doing
something.
what planet do you hail from? taking action for the sake of action is flawed.
lets be honest here. 9/11 was an incredible tragedy- action was called for.
but Iraq is and should not be the focal point. Bush has a hard on for Sadamn -
perhaps you remember a former President who goes by the name of George Bush Sr.
Pops got involved because his master the Saudi royal family's oil assets were in
danger. that war was about oil plan and simple. now the friggin idiot Jr. had
a yearning to clean up after pops, so of to iraq we go. but the problem is he
is borderline retarded and has zero tactial intelligence - so the end result
thousands of soldiers are dying in a war they shouldn't even be fighting. the
threat is bin Laden and guess what? he planning something else. oh right he's
hangin out in Afghanistan.
things are so bad in Iraq that a current exit strategy is impossible. now this
sounds kinda bad right? well guess what there's more. in Bush's quest of War
on Terror homeland security he alienated all the foreign countries whom we need
to eradicate terrorism. so the US (taxpayers) is eating the full cost of the
War in Iraq. now if another serious threat develops i dare say we are so
overextended that we may not be able to handle it adequately.
let me just say im American but i must admit im actually ashamed of the conduct
of our leaders; these freakin whores are leading us to a disaster.his country
hasn't seen this much division since Vietnam.
perhaps the RNP should adopt K.M.F.D.M.'s "Star & Stripes" as
theme song.
what other think- on nov. 4 i saw the German industrial band, kmfdm in Phila.
they were promoting their latest album dedicating to W. called wwiii. does any1
realize what a poor reputation the US has in say
Europe?
So ... now "Bush Warmonger " & "Darth Chaney" have regain the "American Force" and on the same time make it THAT MUCH more powerful!
"Republican now Completely overkills the the Loserats on the House of Senate and with the Leader of the Supreme council "Supreme Court" is steping down which "Bush Warmonger " & "Darth Chaney" can now pick another Leader to lead the council into further Evil. lol." What do think it'll happen next?
Can the republic continue to be under "Bush Warmonger " & "Darth Chaney" stop its evil ways, lol, and can the corrupt and mislead the Trade federation. "Corp and working class america" found victory under this iron fist of the republic? lol... hahaha.... oh man.... "now all we need is the star wars music playing on the bg. lol....
So whats do you guys think of the future of this great land we call america for the next 4 years? Super/Great/Good/ Bad/Horror/Terror ?
What the hell are you smoking?
Just because our president is Bush doesnt mean we are all going to die. Bush has been a president before and we obviously werent obliterated in the past four years. People need to stop bitching about how the world will end with bush in office. People need to face the fact that America is only a country. It will fall just like everyother country. It will end sooner or later and nothing can stop that. Its the natural course of history and just because bush is president doesnt mean we will die. We have the same chance under Kerry that we could all sponateously combust. The only reason bush was elected president was that people who wanted kerry decided not to vote, or to vote against him because he looks like hes melting. Its a sad sad world we live in now...
dude first claim down. I ain't smoking nothin, its just some facts. Our nation is divided, and the last thing we need is someone goes off the top.
and another thing, if you read what I said, "as you can see I'm trying
to come out a bit on the funny side, not going at all serious here"... I'm
more looking on the direction of NOW Republicans have Even more power towards
all 3 houses. Which means Democrats turns from NO Power to even more NO Power!
and with large % of the american ppl as more liberal then conservative.
ex: working middle / lower class is almost always more liberal then conservative, & upper / upper middle class is almost always more conservative than liberal.
But of course conservative is running the country almost entirely now... I was hoping ppl would think about that..... I think will US gets better now on the fact that the "One party" holds all the vote power, money, and jobs for our future.
Missed the funny. Must be aiming too high.
Sorry man, but like Cy quoted his friend, the two things that usually get people angered are politics and religion. Your "humor" actually kinda insulted me.
Alright man... You don't happen to realize a fundamental law of math and economics, do you? Bush relieved equal tax percentages all around. In other words, everyone got the same percentage back. It just so happens that the rich are richer, and because of an equal percentage tax break, they get more money back than the "less fortunate" do.
I'm middle class, and conservative. It's not unusual to find a roughly equal percentage of liberal and conservative middle class. Why? Well take a look at who has always been historically dominant as the middle class... Jews! Yup, that's right, Jews. And typically, Jews are conservative.
(And
this of no offense to Jews, my mother's Jewish)
Why do people think Bush will ruin this country. There have been far worse presidents that didn't do crap for the U.S. and just drove it into the ground. Bush is a better president than Kerry will ever be. Kerry isn't very charismatic and very boring. Bush handled 9/11 very well. If Al Gore was president, he probably would have done nothing but stay on the defense and Kerry would have declared to get Osama and then say nevermind. He won't do it again. People need to realize Bush is a good president. Some people say we should get other countries that harbor the terrorists. Iraq, though it wasn't a big threat to the u.s., it was a pretty good place to take strategically. It is basically in the center of the Middle Eastern countries. If we attacked Saudi Arabia first, where Bin Laden's family lives, we would have the highest gas prices in history. Saudi Arabia is the biggest supplier of oil in OPEC to the U.S. You people that hate Bush should stop your PMSing. If you want something done your way, then go run for president when you're eligible. Christ.
As my mother would say, "We won't know if he was a good president or not until at least 50 years from now."
My history teacher has told me that many times too, and the same with any historical event. Who knows, maybe something that Bush did actually savved our @$$es but we just don't know it. Maybe - as horrible and horrendous as this may sound, please don't take it the wrong way, but I'm just saying - that one of the people killed in the war in Iraq was goinng to be the next Osama bin Laden. But we'll never know. All we can do is just see how things unfold with what's happened.
But yeah, I agree with The-Void, I'm quite glad with what Bush has done. Many were glad right after 9/11 with what Bush did and said things like, "Gore never would have done that" and such, but because Bush has stuck to what he did in since the beginning, he gets shat on for it. I give him props to sticking by what he believes in.
Oi oi. Politricks are a touchy subject, eh? All I want is more jobs, less threats, and a future.
Vagrant, I didn't mean it like that everyone. My topic has nothing well "almost nothing" to do about the Bush not fit for his presidency. I'm more of targeting towards the ideals of an unbalance america, that Republicians are Completely in control. The checks and balance system is no longer balance due to the fact that all 3 houses are (R) so Bush can almost "not entirely" but almost whatever the (R) wants to pass or gets done that can seriously leads the country to one side, the oppose can't really do much on the fact that they have all the power! thats what i'm tries to get at.
In any presidency, you have a good amount of oppose and good amount of pros but in both Bushes terms, he gets good amount of the power first and almost of the power now. Its kind of scary but it could be a good thing too. Most Bush plans are short term fix stuff if you read his policy. So in short terms, the economy will gets better but it won't last, but at least we know he'll kick the terrorist ass.
I don't wana start some fire here. I was hoping for a joke but it seems ppl are still very serious about this one.....
Well, me being a Canadian in the Americas right now, I'd have to say I'm a little nervous with Bush in the White House again... coming from a peace-keeping country as we've been identified as- I'm really not liking this whole [R] overtake... not to start huge debates, obvoiusly with the whole country divided on this one- it would be an impossible task to please everyone in this forum 0_0... all i know is that politicians lie, and im not a huge fan of them for that- but if I was able to vote; it would'nt have been Bush...
I dont even think this forum is really running down on Bush either... its kinda just asking how people feel about [R]'s taking over- and if they think it's good or bad move.... personnally, I'm not thrilled at all- and neither are alot of the kids at school where I am...
Personnally, looking back at Bush's last 4 years- I'm not confident in his abilities... In my own opinion, i think he's an idiot with alot of money and power whose whole campaign from what i saw was based on religion and war... two things I don't particulary believe in.... I'm worried now that things like abortion and drug counselling, and anything for that matter will be viewed only in a religious sense of the presidents reasoning.... i'm not fond of this at all....
Didn't fluster me at all Frosty- I got what you were getting at...
and for all of you Bush supporters- I'm not happy with the outcome, but i sure hope you guys are right
My sentiments exactly.
I didn't read all of the earlier posts but this is a forum, it's for opinions, so here's mine. I don't know the first thing about politics...espicially american ones because your system is just bizare to me...but I am dissapointed that Bush got the seat AGAIN...He was just so dam arrogant about it too (from what I saw on tv that is) just sitting back in the White House waiting to be elected...and Arnold in Florida throwing him a party before the final couts we're out...
I can't judge the Americans because heck, I don't vote because I think politics are all fixed (well this time I'm positive the elections we're...) and it's just a really dirty buisness...sometimes I wonder if democracy works at all because all the wrong people seem to be elected for all the wrong reasons....Judge or dislike me if you will for what I just said...but I would have hoped that with the past event that came wit Bush's presidentsy...the Americans would have learned a little and not have voted for him twice because now, like or not, but it's not just the US, the entire world has to live with Bush for 4 years....again
so true 0_0 i was talking to some friends from back home in Canada and they were all banging their heads together trying to figure out why the US would want him?
you're so right tho.. it's not just the Americans who have to deal with him for another 4 years... the rest of the world is going to be affected by him,... that's scary...
Because we're one of the few free nations that has a majority of conservative voters who found Kerry's ideals and policies absurd. I believe he's supposed to be Catholic. But he's a democrat. Something wrong with that? Yes, in fact. He's going against his beliefs, if he has any. I really can't see what the hell Kerry would try to do except follow the popular vote. As if the majority of people are actually smart. *snorts*
the thing is; can a president use his own beliefs of religion for all of the people? no... for a man who says he wants to "free the world" and make everyone have choices- isn't it ironic that he's limiting those very rights of people who aren't catholic and what not by viewing his values over to his choices over a nation? i really dont get this... i don't see how anyone can say that he can't allow people to do things because HIS religion says its wrong... who is he to say what another persons beliefs are? i just don't like that at all...
bush hasnt screwed up too much crap yet. u cant possibly say bush is a bad president. look at hoover. during his presidency, the depression hit and he did nothing. he sat there thinkin it would just go away with his little saying about Rugged Individualism. at least bush is doing something.
sooo true...just cos he got the top seat does not mean what he believes is right.
I agree.
Stop bashing on Bush. Have you been president? Do you think you could do a better job? He's doing what he can and that's just fine with me. Why can't a person have beliefs and be able to govern as well? Bush has Catholic views. If he had Atheist views, would you be complaining? No, but other people would.
My thoughts exactly. We've had far worse presidents than Bush.
1) He's Protestant, not Catholic. Big difference there.
2) Please display where he's limiting rights of those who aren't Christian. Unfortunately for Muslims, it just so happens that the extremists from their religion attacked the US, and there were bound to be obvious reprocussions against Muslims, liberal or not. Make whatever opinion you want of the following article:
http://www.hellzkitchenserver.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1026
3) And ironically... by forcing him to not be able to force his views on you, you're force-feeding your views on him (yay for tricky sentences). So we're back to square one. Perhaps you don't realize, but it's pretty much not possible to decide on social issues without bringing your religion into things. That's why I think the president should have no say over social issues. Makes them look like less of an ass, and it makes them do the job they should be doing.
well, i'm not overly happy that bush got back into office, but that's mostly because he's just not that intellingent of a person. he's not really swift, and his view of "freedom" is very strange to me. don't forget that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
i voted for bush....everything kerry said sounded like he was trying to hard ?ur trying to be the leader of our country not a salesman.....and i agree with the war...i all most went but i choose not to go u see i choose not to ...there's no kneed to talk shit about the prez if u do ur talking about the country if ur talking about my country take ur ass to canada.
thing is, politics aren't about truth anymore... what politician, including Bush and Kerry for that matter doesn't lie? unfortunatley thats the world we live in.. thus being why they are sounding like their "selling" themselves onto you: because they do that. I'm not a huge fan of politics because they don't get down to what they should be doing, and all they ever do is disagree with the other parties
well, i think he's limiting rights of those who are not christian when he tries to declare laws on things like abortion and gay marrages by his own religion. What i'm trying to say is how can you say that it's a free country which embraces the beliefs of everyone, when everything ends up being chosen by the presidents relgious beliefs on subjects? Kerry said "You can't take away womens rights on abortion because of your own beliefs." We cannot make everyone believe the same thing therefore who is one man to say you cannot because his religion states it as a sin? i'm neither gay nor christian, and thankfully never had to decide on abortion issues for myself personally for that matter, but these issues are important to me because i know people who have to deal with them every day or are fitted into these categories- and even if i didn't- who am i to say what they in their free country can and cannot do? I'd feel much better knowing that i lived in a country that not only accepted gay unions between people, but realized that it's our modern culture. Who am i to say what someones views should be? thats the beauty of the world we live in today- we are not only allowed to express our opinions- we can vote on them-
i dont wanna start a kerry-bush war, because i'm not ranting on about that... i'm saying this:
well, the thing is: even if i was still in Canada, this would affect me- being that this election wasn't only about America. When there is a war going on, the whole world is affected by the outcomes of the particular countries involved. this campaign was and is a world issue. I have nothing against America. I'm not anti-american, i'm anti-Bush's views, hense why me and others are upset about the outcome... again, obviously that doesn't matter now, being that he's been elected for another 4 years.. i just hope you guys are right and i'm wrong about him, because i'm not convinced he's the right man to be there.
what planet do you hail from? taking action for the sake of action is flawed. lets be honest here. 9/11 was an incredible tragedy- action was called for. but Iraq is and should not be the focal point. Bush has a hard on for Sadamn - perhaps you remember a former President who goes by the name of George Bush Sr. Pops got involved because his master the Saudi royal family's oil assets were in danger. that war was about oil plan and simple. now the friggin idiot Jr. had a yearning to clean up after pops, so of to iraq we go. but the problem is he is borderline retarded and has zero tactial intelligence - so the end result thousands of soldiers are dying in a war they shouldn't even be fighting. the threat is bin Laden and guess what? he planning something else. oh right he's hangin out in Afghanistan.
things are so bad in Iraq that a current exit strategy is impossible. now this
sounds kinda bad right? well guess what there's more. in Bush's quest of War
on Terror homeland security he alienated all the foreign countries whom we need
to eradicate terrorism. so the US (taxpayers) is eating the full cost of the
War in Iraq. now if another serious threat develops i dare say we are so
overextended that we may not be able to handle it adequately.
let me just say im American but i must admit im actually ashamed of the conduct of our leaders; these freakin whores are leading us to a disaster.his country hasn't seen this much division since Vietnam.
perhaps the RNP should adopt K.M.F.D.M.'s "Star & Stripes" as theme song.
what other think- on nov. 4 i saw the German industrial band, kmfdm in Phila. they were promoting their latest album dedicating to W. called wwiii. does any1 realize what a poor reputation the US has in say Europe?
perfectly said ^_^
and its not even just Europe, dont forget Canada!