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NAH! And do you want to know why? It's simple...yeah go ahead and call me crazy all you want but it's because there is no magic here in this realm. That's what I think. ;)
Ok, what's that? Seriously, I have no idea.
- Jan 23, 2006
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Second coming? Nah.
More like the first third of an eleven year solar cycle.
Get ready for some weather of Biblical Proportions.
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- Jan 23, 2006
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Yeah, I think it is, and I hope it can come as soon as possible because this world is getting worse everyday and I don't think that world gonna be better... (uh, sorry about my structure... sorry)
- Jan 24, 2006
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i think an end will come but it could take a million years before it happends
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Maybe longer than that?
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Oh, I believe we're already in the last days. Unlike most people though, I believe that the "Last Days" is actually a metaphor for a big change in this world, and not an actual end to the world or humanity. We'll all experience this change soon enough, and yes (to UchihaTaiji), 2012 will be a big year.
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- Jan 28, 2006
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Whether or not the end is coming - does it really matter? I mean shouldn't we be more focussed or trying to making the best of our time in this world rather than dwelling on the fact that our entire world will be wiped out?
Unfortunately humans are humans, are no matter what time we are in, it seems that there will always be atrocities that happen. I'd like to hope that we would change - realise what is happening and do more then just care for ourselves, but frankly I don't think that is in the general human nature.
In short - think we should just live today for today. Dwelling on what might be - especially something as big as this, is just depressing maybe even a bit silly.
Although, it does make one think :P and I guess that at least is in our nature - to question our existence and end of.
Human kind cannot gain anything without first giving up something in return.
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- Feb 04, 2006
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Ok i just want to ask, why the heck do people say that 2012 will be the end of the world? Seriously?
- Jul 19, 2006
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Second coming?
In my beliefs, we are living in the "Last Days"....
What indicates that we today are living in "the last days"?
The Bible describes events and conditions that mark this significant time period. "The sign" is a composite one made up of many evidences; thus its fulfillment requires that all aspects of the sign be clearly in evidence during one generation. The various aspects of the sign are recorded at Matthew chapters 24, 25, Mark 13, and Luke 21; there are further details at 2 Timothy 3:1-5, 2 Peter 3:3, 4, and Revelation 6:1-8. By way of illustration, we will consider a few outstanding portions of the sign...
"Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom"--Matthew 24:7
War has marred life on the earth for thousands of years. International wars and wars within nations have been fought. But beginning in 1914 the first world war was fought. This was not merely a conflict between two armies on the battlefield. For the first time, all the major powers were at war. Entire nations--including civilian populations--were mobilized to support the war effort. It is estimated that by the end of the war 93 percent of the population of the world was involved...As foretold at Revelation 6:4, 'peace was taken away from the earth.'
"And another came forth, a fiery-colored horse; and to the one seated upon it there was granted to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another; and a great sword was given him."--Revelation 6:4
Thus the world has continued to be in a state of upheaval ever since 1914. World War II was fought from 1939 to 1945. According to retired Admiral Gene La Rocque, as of 1982 there had been another 270 wars since 1945. Upwards of 100 million persons have been slaughtered in warfare during this century. Also, according to the 1982 edition of World Military and Social Expenditures, there were in that year 100 million people engaged directly or indirectly in military activities...
Is more required in order to fulfill this aspect of the prophecy? There are tens of thousands of nuclear weapons deployed for immediate use. Leading scientists have said that if the nations were to use even a fraction of their nuclear arsenals, civilization and possibly the entire human species would be destroyed. But that is not the outcome to which Bible prophecy points...
"There will be food shortages . . . in one place after another"--Matthew 24:7
There have been many famines in human history. To what extent has the 20th century been afflicted by them? World war led to widespread starvation in Europe and Asia. Africa has been stricken by drought, resulting in extensive food shortages. Late in 1980 the Food and Agriculture Organization estimated that 450 million people were hungry to the point of starvation, and up to a billion did not have enough to eat. Of these, some 40 million a year actually die--in some years as many as 50 million--because of the shortage of food...Is anything different about these food shortages?
"And I heard a voice as if in the midst of the four living creatures say: "A quart of wheat for a denar'ius, and three quarts of barley for a denar'ius; and do not harm the olive oil and the wine."--Revelation 6:6
Revelation 6:6 indicated that a small quantity of such staples as wheat or barley would be selling for a day's wage (a denarius; see Matthew 20:2) but that supplies of such items as olive oil and wine used by people who are well-to-do would not be harmed. So apparently many would suffer shortage while others could still get what they wanted. This situation is no longer local, but global. In 1981 The New York Times reported: "The improvement in living standards and the growing demand for food around the world have put pressure on food prices, making it harder for the poorest countries to import their food needs." In many lands the production of food, even with the aid of modern science, has not been able to keep pace with the increase in total population. Modern food experts see no real solution to the problem...
"There will be great earthquakes"--Luke 21:11
It is true that there were major quakes in centuries past; furthermore, with their sensitive equipment scientists now detect more than a million quakes a year. But no special instruments are needed for people to know when there is a great earthquake...Has there actually been a significant number of major earthquakes since 1914? With data obtained from the National Geophysical Data Center in Boulder, Colorado, supplemented by a number of standard reference works, a tabulation was made in 1984 that included only earthquakes that measured 7.5 or more on the Richter scale, or that resulted in destruction of five million dollars (U.S.) or more in property, or that caused 100 or more deaths. It was calculated that there had been 856 of such earthquakes during the 2,000 years before 1914. The same tabulation showed that in just 69 years following 1914 there were 605 of such quakes. That means that, in comparison with the previous 2,000 years, the average per year has been 20 times as great since 1914...
"In one place after another pestilences"--Luke 21:11
At the close of the first world war the Spanish flu swept around the globe, claiming upwards of 20 million lives and at a rate unparalleled in the history of disease. Despite advances in medical science, a heavy toll is exacted every year by cancer, heart disease, numerous sexually transmitted diseases, multiple sclerosis, malaria, river blindness, and Chagas' disease...'Increased lawlessness accompanied by a cooling off of love on the part of the greater number'--Matthew 24:11-12
A leading criminologist says: "The one thing that hits you in the eye when you look at crime on the world scale is a pervasive and persistent increase everywhere. Such exceptions as there are stand out in splendid isolation, and may soon be swamped in the rising tide." (The Growth of Crime, New York, 1977, Sir Leon Radzinowicz and Joan King, pp. 4, 5) The increase is real; it is not merely a matter of better reporting. It is true, past generations had criminals too, but never before has crime been as pervasive as it is now. Persons who are up in years know that from personal experience...The lawlessness referred to in the prophecy includes contempt for the known laws of God, a placing of self instead of God at the center of one's life. As a result of this attitude, divorce rates are skyrocketing, sex outside of marriage and homosexuality are widely accepted, and tens of millions of abortions are performed every year. Such lawlessness is associated (in Matthew 24:11-12) with the influence of false prophets, those who set aside God's Word in favor of their own teachings. Heeding their philosophies instead of holding to the Bible contributes toward a loveless world. (1 John 4:8) Read the description of it at 2 Timothy 3:1-5...
"And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off."--Matthew 24:11-12
"He that does not love has not come to know God, because God is love."--1 John 4:8
"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away."--2 Timothy 3:1-5
"Men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth"--Luke 21:25-26
"The fact is that today the biggest single emotion which dominates our lives is fear," said U.S. News & World Report. (October 11, 1965, p. 144) "Never before has mankind been as fearful as at present," reported the German magazine Horzu.--No. 25, June 20, 1980, p. 22.Many factors contribute to this global atmosphere of fear: violent crime, unemployment, economic instability because so many nations are hopelessly in debt, worldwide pollution of the environment, lack of strong and loving family ties, and the overwhelming feeling that mankind is in imminent danger of nuclear annihilation.
"Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation,"--Luke 21:25
Luke 21:25 mentions 'signs in sun, moon, and stars, and roaring of the seas' in connection with the anguish felt by the nations. The rising of the sun often causes, not happy anticipation, but fear of what the day may bring; when the moon and stars shine, fear of crime makes people stay behind locked doors. In the 20th century, but not before, planes and missiles have been used to send destruction streaking down from the heavens. Submarines carrying deadly loads of missiles prowl the seas, just one such submarine being equipped to annihilate 160 cities. No wonder the nations are in anguish!
'Christ's true followers to be objects of hatred by all nations on account of his name'--Matthew 24:9
This persecution is not because of political meddling but 'on account of the name of Jesus Christ,' because his followers adhere to him as Jehovah's Messianic King, because of their obeying Christ ahead of any earthly ruler, because of their loyally adhering to his Kingdom and not becoming involved in the affairs of human governments. As modern-day history testifies, that has been the experience of Jehovah's Witnesses in all parts of the earth...If you think that this planet would be destroyed, it's not true... ^_^' there is no "end of the world" according to the Bible.... :)
"The righteous themselves will possess the earth,
And they will reside forever upon it."--Psalm 37:89- Jul 19, 2006
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Don't think humanity will die out. But most likely more disasters will come and world population will continue to increase.
I don't think any major extinction of the human race will come within the next 100 years. But the earth might not be able to support that many people anymore, so there will be a lot less human on earth.
By the way, this is just my opinion, and it is not based on any science at all.- Jul 19, 2006
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Quote by DarkIngramSecond coming?
In my beliefs, we are living in the "Last Days"....
What indicates that we today are living in "the last days"?
The Bible describes events and conditions that mark this significant time period. "The sign" is a composite one made up of many evidences; thus its fulfillment requires that all aspects of the sign be clearly in evidence during one generation. The various aspects of the sign are recorded at Matthew chapters 24, 25, Mark 13, and Luke 21; there are further details at 2 Timothy 3:1-5, 2 Peter 3:3, 4, and Revelation 6:1-8. By way of illustration, we will consider a few outstanding portions of the sign...
"Nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom"--Matthew 24:7
War has marred life on the earth for thousands of years. International wars and wars within nations have been fought. But beginning in 1914 the first world war was fought. This was not merely a conflict between two armies on the battlefield. For the first time, all the major powers were at war. Entire nations--including civilian populations--were mobilized to support the war effort. It is estimated that by the end of the war 93 percent of the population of the world was involved...As foretold at Revelation 6:4, 'peace was taken away from the earth.'
"And another came forth, a fiery-colored horse; and to the one seated upon it there was granted to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another; and a great sword was given him."--Revelation 6:4
Thus the world has continued to be in a state of upheaval ever since 1914. World War II was fought from 1939 to 1945. According to retired Admiral Gene La Rocque, as of 1982 there had been another 270 wars since 1945. Upwards of 100 million persons have been slaughtered in warfare during this century. Also, according to the 1982 edition of World Military and Social Expenditures, there were in that year 100 million people engaged directly or indirectly in military activities...
Is more required in order to fulfill this aspect of the prophecy? There are tens of thousands of nuclear weapons deployed for immediate use. Leading scientists have said that if the nations were to use even a fraction of their nuclear arsenals, civilization and possibly the entire human species would be destroyed. But that is not the outcome to which Bible prophecy points...
"There will be food shortages . . . in one place after another"--Matthew 24:7
There have been many famines in human history. To what extent has the 20th century been afflicted by them? World war led to widespread starvation in Europe and Asia. Africa has been stricken by drought, resulting in extensive food shortages. Late in 1980 the Food and Agriculture Organization estimated that 450 million people were hungry to the point of starvation, and up to a billion did not have enough to eat. Of these, some 40 million a year actually die--in some years as many as 50 million--because of the shortage of food...Is anything different about these food shortages?
"And I heard a voice as if in the midst of the four living creatures say: "A quart of wheat for a denar'ius, and three quarts of barley for a denar'ius; and do not harm the olive oil and the wine."--Revelation 6:6
Revelation 6:6 indicated that a small quantity of such staples as wheat or barley would be selling for a day's wage (a denarius; see Matthew 20:2) but that supplies of such items as olive oil and wine used by people who are well-to-do would not be harmed. So apparently many would suffer shortage while others could still get what they wanted. This situation is no longer local, but global. In 1981 The New York Times reported: "The improvement in living standards and the growing demand for food around the world have put pressure on food prices, making it harder for the poorest countries to import their food needs." In many lands the production of food, even with the aid of modern science, has not been able to keep pace with the increase in total population. Modern food experts see no real solution to the problem...
"There will be great earthquakes"--Luke 21:11
It is true that there were major quakes in centuries past; furthermore, with their sensitive equipment scientists now detect more than a million quakes a year. But no special instruments are needed for people to know when there is a great earthquake...Has there actually been a significant number of major earthquakes since 1914? With data obtained from the National Geophysical Data Center in Boulder, Colorado, supplemented by a number of standard reference works, a tabulation was made in 1984 that included only earthquakes that measured 7.5 or more on the Richter scale, or that resulted in destruction of five million dollars (U.S.) or more in property, or that caused 100 or more deaths. It was calculated that there had been 856 of such earthquakes during the 2,000 years before 1914. The same tabulation showed that in just 69 years following 1914 there were 605 of such quakes. That means that, in comparison with the previous 2,000 years, the average per year has been 20 times as great since 1914...
"In one place after another pestilences"--Luke 21:11
At the close of the first world war the Spanish flu swept around the globe, claiming upwards of 20 million lives and at a rate unparalleled in the history of disease. Despite advances in medical science, a heavy toll is exacted every year by cancer, heart disease, numerous sexually transmitted diseases, multiple sclerosis, malaria, river blindness, and Chagas' disease...'Increased lawlessness accompanied by a cooling off of love on the part of the greater number'--Matthew 24:11-12
A leading criminologist says: "The one thing that hits you in the eye when you look at crime on the world scale is a pervasive and persistent increase everywhere. Such exceptions as there are stand out in splendid isolation, and may soon be swamped in the rising tide." (The Growth of Crime, New York, 1977, Sir Leon Radzinowicz and Joan King, pp. 4, 5) The increase is real; it is not merely a matter of better reporting. It is true, past generations had criminals too, but never before has crime been as pervasive as it is now. Persons who are up in years know that from personal experience...The lawlessness referred to in the prophecy includes contempt for the known laws of God, a placing of self instead of God at the center of one's life. As a result of this attitude, divorce rates are skyrocketing, sex outside of marriage and homosexuality are widely accepted, and tens of millions of abortions are performed every year. Such lawlessness is associated (in Matthew 24:11-12) with the influence of false prophets, those who set aside God's Word in favor of their own teachings. Heeding their philosophies instead of holding to the Bible contributes toward a loveless world. (1 John 4:8) Read the description of it at 2 Timothy 3:1-5...
"And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off."--Matthew 24:11-12
"He that does not love has not come to know God, because God is love."--1 John 4:8
"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away."--2 Timothy 3:1-5
"Men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth"--Luke 21:25-26
"The fact is that today the biggest single emotion which dominates our lives is fear," said U.S. News & World Report. (October 11, 1965, p. 144) "Never before has mankind been as fearful as at present," reported the German magazine Horzu.--No. 25, June 20, 1980, p. 22.Many factors contribute to this global atmosphere of fear: violent crime, unemployment, economic instability because so many nations are hopelessly in debt, worldwide pollution of the environment, lack of strong and loving family ties, and the overwhelming feeling that mankind is in imminent danger of nuclear annihilation.
"Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation,"--Luke 21:25
Luke 21:25 mentions 'signs in sun, moon, and stars, and roaring of the seas' in connection with the anguish felt by the nations. The rising of the sun often causes, not happy anticipation, but fear of what the day may bring; when the moon and stars shine, fear of crime makes people stay behind locked doors. In the 20th century, but not before, planes and missiles have been used to send destruction streaking down from the heavens. Submarines carrying deadly loads of missiles prowl the seas, just one such submarine being equipped to annihilate 160 cities. No wonder the nations are in anguish!
'Christ's true followers to be objects of hatred by all nations on account of his name'--Matthew 24:9
This persecution is not because of political meddling but 'on account of the name of Jesus Christ,' because his followers adhere to him as Jehovah's Messianic King, because of their obeying Christ ahead of any earthly ruler, because of their loyally adhering to his Kingdom and not becoming involved in the affairs of human governments. As modern-day history testifies, that has been the experience of Jehovah's Witnesses in all parts of the earth...If you think that this planet would be destroyed, it's not true... ^_^' there is no "end of the world" according to the Bible.... :)
"The righteous themselves will possess the earth,
And they will reside forever upon it."--Psalm 37:89
WoW!That was something that really made me think deeply. Yes it is possible that these are actually happening nowadays and yet we sometimes take them for granted..........- Jul 22, 2006
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Well, despite with all that bible quotations and such, humanity will still live on. We are like, a persistant little pests on earth that refuses to die. Why? Because all the stuff Ingram said, it already happened a millenia ago, some fared worse, some fared easier.
We will live on, I may not, but humans will. They will keep living until they fail to find another planet to leech off and when earth explodes. which is still 2 million years away. All that crap, Revalations? Don't think that because the apocalyse will arrive, the humans will eventually die. In our history, 2 major events that's related to the bible was predicted. Millenia ago, the crusades erupted, killing and hurting hundreds and thousands of people. a century ago, all major wars, World war, world war II, Cold war and the wars caused by it, erupted, killing not thousands, not hundreds, but millions of people.
Well, as for natural disasters, and global warming, the earth also has mechanisms to balance the world. Too much carbon dioxide, melt's icecaps, and then when the world is hot, it triggers a meltdown, or cooldown, where an ice age begins, and well, most of us will be frozen to death, but not all of us. So, after that, Earth will be back to it's natural state. And we start all over again. something like that.
I'm just noting that Even if there was an apocalypse, we won't die out. Humans are too hard to be killed altogether, even God wouldn't kill all of us. =D
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