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I would like to know how am I doing?
I'm following the tutorial I was giving,

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab136/yoko020/trace.jpg

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab136/yoko020/outlines.jpg

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Hmm, judging from the screenshot, you're using the right Tool selections but for some odd reason, the lines look weird - especially the ones on the book and the hands of the girl holding the book - they are too uneven and some are very thick while some are very thin and look as if they were stopped in the middle and then started again. What tool from the Pen Tool selection are you using? When I saw your last vector (the one you submitted yesterday that got deleted), I couldn't help but think you were using the Line Tool from MS Paint, or at least Freeform Pen Tool since the lines were very jagged, wonky and uneven.

I won't say you're doing it completely wrong for now, but you definitely need to make your lines and coloring more refined, detailed and precise.

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Here it is finished I did my best.
And I was using the pen tool but my comp kept changing the line sizes on me and I couldn't fix it then.
But I did fix the lines are you talking about.
http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab136/yoko020/Coco.jpg

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well, i think it's kinda in a little mess.. with the eyebrows...
was that your 1st time?
But at least you've tried your best~ ^^

  • Mar 29, 2012

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Yes it is my first time.

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Quote by skynightAnd I was using the pen tool but my comp kept changing the line sizes on me and I couldn't fix it then.

Kept changing the line sizes? How exactly and why? I mean, if you work in Photoshop, use Pen Tool and add anchor points by using Shape Layers, it shouldn't really do anything, let alone change line sizes of another program. O_o

It definitely looks better than your first try but you still need to work harder on this - the lines still look pretty messy and choppy - especially the hair - do you know how to make Bezier curves? They're necessary for outlining curvy lines like fingers, hair, eyes etc. and the lines should definitely be thinner on some details like lips, nose, eyes and so on.

Lemme link you to a very good vectoring tutorial by Nysha; it's very detailed, concise and to the point so maybe it will help you grasp the technical stuff better. You can see it here: Link

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I'm happy the link I provided helped you =^^= (though I know it'd have been a pain to read it... it was very very long ^^') and you're seriously improving (compared to the other one)! great! (^.^)b
now let's do smthg for those many many jagged lines (it makes it look messy)! ;) hmm... to make it simple, I took some screenshots to help you, 'kay? ;) our PS versions aren't similar but the tools don't change :) you did the right lineart, now, let's just improve it a bit by adjusting the anchor points! :D (excuse my english)

when you stroke the path, you just followed the original lines, right? look at the part in the green circles, they aren't curvy at all, or it SHOULD look curvy :O
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5575/69939269.th.jpg

but it's no big deal, you just have to adjust the curves of the anchor points ;) I guess your path looks a bit like this : (notice that there are many anchor points [the gray squares] we'll adjust them)
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4404/24402779.th.jpg

to curve the lines :
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8041/66313694.th.jpg

so, after some adjustments, I got this :
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3773/84158639.th.jpg

now into stroking the path ;) to make it look better, change the settings of the brush!
http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/6596/92826554.th.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/590/96077890xh.th.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2774/15436087.th.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2005/58671859.th.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3260/23347949.th.jpg

finally, I obtained smthg like this (it's more curvy, right? :3)
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2585/fintv.th.jpg

so, basically, that's it :D (excuse my bad translations, I use the french version of PS ^^') hope it can help you :3
good luck! ♥

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Okay Thank you and no I don't know how to makes those lines,
And About the Shape Layers I couldn't find that options in my PS
I looked. Could some one tell me.

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a shape layer is the layer created with the shape tool ^_^ when you use the shape tool, a new layer automatically appear and it's called shape layer :D

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Quote by skynightOkay Thank you and no I don't know how to makes those lines,
And About the Shape Layers I couldn't find that options in my PS
I looked. Could some one tell me.

There are two ways to vector in PS - one is by using Paths and the other one is by using Shape Layers.

Paths are easier and more convenient but they are also more static and don't offer you a lot of freedom when it comes to line thickness and dynamics, especially when it comes to living beings like humans and animals. Paths operate on using the 'Stroke path' function - basically, you add anchor points, right-click when you're done and choose 'Stroke Path'.

Shape layers operate on the principle of vector masks - they take longer since you have to outline the line on both sides but the results are better - you can play with line thickness, length, curves and dynamics a lot more.

Here's the example of doing things with Paths:

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/8246/vectors01.th.jpg --> http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9324/vectors02.th.jpg --> http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5467/vectors03.th.jpg

And here is where we use Shape Layers:

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/2424/vectors04.th.jpg --> http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7112/vectors05.th.jpg

I hope that illustrated it better. As for Bezier curves, you make them like this: make the first anchor point and then make the second one but instead of releasing it, hold your mouse over it when you make it and drag the mouse in any direction you want. Depending on the way you drag the anchor point, a curve will be made.

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Okay yes that helps but I'm problem is I can't find that options on my PS
Okay I did what you guys said and tried it on this pic.
http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab136/yoko020/Girl.jpg

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oh, i guess this one is better... My first time was worse than yours... ^^"
well, you need to practice more to be better... =)

  • Mar 30, 2012

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vectoring is always hard at the first time, keep practicing!
shape layers are pen tool as well but on the upper toolbar when you're using the pen tool (alenas already showed it on her bottom screenshot). I made a noobish tutorial with pen tool shape layers before maybe you can try it?
http://www.mediafire.com/?h1mgozdnnm1

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Quote by skynightOkay yes that helps but I'm problem is I can't find that options on my PS

...What version of Photoshop are you using exactly? If it's like any other newer version of PS, it definitely should have those options there. Unless you're using some different, odd version of PS that has different Pen Tool settings or something. o_o

The latest try definitely looks a lot better than the previous ones but some lines still need more work. Like others had said - vectoring is never easy when you first try it out - it took me a lot of time to learn and perfect it, too. It's all about practicing, being patient and persistent.

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Thanks guys :)
My PS is CS4.
And it still wasn't showing that options tho.

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...Okay, here's what I want you to do - open your PS, click on the Pen Tool on the toolbox on the left (choose Pen Tool - the normal one, the first one on the list of options), leave it like that and screenshot the whole window. I want to see how it all looks like when you click on the Pen Tool.

I don't know much about CS4 - never used it - so maybe the tools are divided differently or something.

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um, nevermind it skynight cuz this is your first time
but if you used PS to vectoring an image i prefer you used "Per Layers"
Per Layer mean you done part by part
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btw, you used Paint Tool to coloring it right ?
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i hope it can help, sorry for my bad english
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Okay Here is the screenshot of my CS4.
http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab136/yoko020/Untitled-1.jpg

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Well, there you have it - they're up there like in any other PS version I've seen. I circled them and wrote which one is for what: Link

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from your screenshot, it definitely says that it's on shape layer option already

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Oh Thank you ^_^

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you can try vectoring with shape layers now :D good luck!

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Thank you I will try,

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yeah, you can try it with layer.
first drag you image to PSCS4 and the right click on the layer option and choose "New Layer". After that you try to vectoring it with the pen tool

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