Lunamaria Hawke - A Shallow Character?

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Who do you like Lunamaria the best with?

Shinn and Lunamaria
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Yolan and Lunamaria
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Rey and Lunamaria
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Arthur and Lunamaria
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Athrun and Lunamaria
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No one, bitch deserves to die. ^^ <3
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Lunamaria Hawke - A Shallow Character?
By: Uchiha Taijiya

First off, I'd like to state that everything below is from my view of Lunamaria and therefore my opinion. I'm not saying everything is true, but I will try and use facts from the show/official images/interviews that I've come across.

I don't like Lunamaria. Actually, she's the first anime character that I really feel this way about. Let me tell you why.


Lunamaria's character was pointless. She liked Athrun, but it was very obvious that he didn't like her back. He never led her on. But she still got jealous and even addressed him, as if, he had done something wrong! Now only someone irrational, immature, and full of herself would do that. Not that it was wrong to get a little jealous, since she liked him and it is only natural. But really, her annoying personality traits made her confront him about Meer (or who Lunamaria thought was his fiance) and even remark about him slapping women. Really, this is so childish. Wow, amusing, but mostly just kinda stupid...

Athrun himself seemed more annoyed with Lunamaria than anything. Not really at first, but more and more as she kept pestering him with pointless chatter. So that got on my nerves and is my first reason for not liking Lunamaria.

But at the time, I was like, oh well, she's nothing too interesting, but I don't hate or dislike her. Since she's cute (like all the characters, pretty much) and her VA is good. So therefore not really an eyesore on screen. But still, there was more to come that would bother me.

I think she treated Meyrin bad. The first instance was when Meyrin spoke up to take Athrun to Captain Talia upon his transfer to Minerva. Meyrin, who's position is CIC and would probably be on her way (which is convenient) and is obviously shy, has spoken up. But Lunamaria just jumps up all smiling and gets in Athrun's face, cutting her sister off. This shows Lunamaria's lack of consideration 'for her only little sister in the world' (the engrish on a cell in our very own gallery here at Minitokyo, check it out, it's cute) and though isn't really a big deal, you'd think since they're on the verge of war Lunamaria would be thinking less of the hot new pilot and more on her own skills, which I think are very lacking.

Then the instance where Meyrin answered her door in her towel. Lunamaria tells her that she looks pathetic. That's down right insulting, since Meyrin hadn't said or done anything to provoke that! Not only that, but her reason for answering the door in a towel was understandable. They had been banging on her door, demanding that she open up... Lunamaria just reacted so annoyingly, though she did run the soldiers off and the proved to be for the better.

There was another scene where Lunamaria is sneering at Meyrin about not coming and seeing her (when she was hurt, but I think Meyrin was at the CIC terminal, so how could she?) Think a little about other's situation, Lunamaria, not just yourself! ::shakes head:: Though at least it shows she wanted her sister to come see her. That's nice. ^^

Since I'm rather close to my own sister, it bothers me to see her treat Meyrin like this. And not only that, but personally I adore Meyrin and see her as Lunamaria's exact opposite. ^^

Then came Lunamaria's reasoning for Athrun and Meyrin going AWOL and also her hooking up with her sisters murderer, er Shinn-chan, I mean. This was the final straw.

First off, she decides that Meyrin was brainwashed or something by Athrun. It's all his fault! The guy who she totally digged but didn't want her! Instead he took her sister!

Okay, that's extreme, but the show even kinda hints at it, shockingly...
When she's fighting Athrun, she asks him why he took Meyrin. She also says that he betrayed them all. But she's not thinking of anything relevant, other than scenes of him and Meer. Wtf? Ooookay, that's kinda weird.

And it's shocking that Lunamaria, as the character who overheard the conversation b/w Athrun, Kira, Cagalli, and Milly (which told of the real Lacus, the assassination attempt, ect) didn't even get slightly suspicious? Is she an idiot? I mean, especially after her sister was labeled a traitor. You wouldn't think she'd believe that so easily. I mean, come on, she would have rocked if she'd set out to discover the truth. But no, Lunamaria doesn't even THINK about this.... ::shakes head::

Instead! Lunamaria seeks comfort in her sister's murderer. She puts the moves on him first. She goes after him, starts crying on his back, so he hugs her. Later, she kisses him before they go off to fight the Logos. ::shakes head:: It's just a warped way to start a couple. So therefore, I don't like Shinn and Lunamaria. And not mention, I was a fan of Shinn and Stellar. And though, I don't blame Lunamaria or anything for that couples unfortunate end, but I do think it's a rather pitiful replacement and isn't on par with Shinn and Stellar. My opinion of course. ^^ ::giggles::

It happened much to quickly and seems more like a guilt/comfort thing. They care about each other, no doubt. But really, it's weird. Shinn never paid much attention to Lunamaria before he shot down Meyrin and Athrun. He just seemed to go along with what she said, nodding in the right places, saying yeah, or oh, or huh? when he needed to, and she'd just small talk about the latest gossip on Minerva. And Shinn almost attacked Lunamaria when she blocked Athrun. And not to mention, "Stellar?" at the very end.
In fact, to me, they seem like teammates but not close friends. So how do they suddenly become a couple? It's beyond me.

At the end, there's nothing really great about Lunamaria. In fact, I've just about covered her. ^^ And though I realize that a lot characters got cut short on the development but... wow, what I did see of Lunamaria really sucks.

Oh and I think to top it all off... she missed that shot of Djibril. ooookay, are you really an elite pilot? Useless, I tell ya!

So in conclusion, I really don't see any good qualities other than superficial ones... she was cute, fan service for guys (for some reason only her skirt will show her ass, when Stellar wears a very similar blue one) I suppose it's the way she poses, all 'perky' and 'slutty'. Her character contributed very little to the show... other than those semi nice scenes with Shinn and then you remember that this is the guy who killed her sister and she's not even worried about that anymore. ::blinks::

A List of My Reasons:

1. Her annoying crush on Athrun. Irrational jealousy makes me laugh. But is still annoying.
2. How she treated Meyrin.
3. Her complete lack of suspicion after overhearing that conversation.
4. HOW her and Shinn got together and the circumstances involving it. It's sick.
5. Not only that, but she has short hair and I very much prefer long haired girls or girls with.. better hair. ^^ (not that looks are that important)

If you like Lunamaria, please feel free to say why. I know I went off, but I wanted to be thorough. I really don't like her. But this isn't a thread for bashing! More like, I'm interested in what the people who like her think of her and how they interpreted the show. It's interesting, entertaining, and perhaps will even be enlightening. But we'll see on that one. ^_~ And of course, if you don't like her, let me know! ^_____^ <3

Let's all try to be civil. If I sounded too harsh, well, know that I DON'T hate Lunamaria. I just don't like her. ^^ I'm open to the idea that she's alright. ^^ Anyway, please, tell me your thoughts on this!

Oh and don't yall think it would have been better if Heine had Luna's part? Well not her whole part, but you know, he could have been the third pilot. ^^ That would have been awesome.

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My answer for the poll is Rey and Lunamaria. I actually thought that was kinda cute. But Rey in the end didn't seem to really like Luna either. ::laughs::

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  • Dec 15, 2005
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Sorry cant read all that but i will say what i think of her...
Uh i just dont like luna...i think that she is well just annoying...and doesnt believe her sister...rather she believes the suspected killer who is a guy that she never really had feelings for. Perhaps a flirt too. I dont like shinnXluna...just a desparate attempt for the story...atleast she wasnt with rey..although i wonder what her reaction would be when she found out he was a clone. Ok she hasnt done anything wrong, but i guess she just is a lil dodgy.

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I DON'T like her!
She's so annoying & also an idiot!
Even if she didn't exist, it's not a matter for GSD story!
And about ShinnxLuna...the way they became couple was so
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How can you fall in love with the person that killed your sister?!
Instead blaming Shinn, she just hugging him & accused Athrun for everything! That's so stupid!

  • Dec 15, 2005
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No one, bitch deserves to die. ^^ <3
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go democracy XD
i agree with any one who hate her. although she as stupid as shinn so maybe she should go with him. stupid+stupid=match XD

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  • Dec 15, 2005

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well.. i do like her and don't like her (you know what i mean)
its neutral for me......
It looks like you haven't watch any gundam series or something..... belive me.. some are worser than this one..
but, i didn't agree with some of your opinion like...

Quote: 4. HOW her and Shinn got together and the circumstances involving it. It's sick.


honestly, i didn't like it too with their way making up to be a couple or something... but still, its life isn't it ? did you ever wonder to yourself, what will it be when you're in the middle of the war, and having that dilemna that Shinn have ? i can't blame him. He's got so many things in his mind already, and surprisingly, took an action to kill athrun. Yeah.. maybe he's just a little kid who can't think too far. But, that's one of my reason to not blame him for this. Now for Lunamaria, Maybe she just think that its so childlish to mad at Shinn. She knows that its a war. And of course she can't blame him either . With that sort of situation and confusion, of course many people want to ask comfort with someone right ? the only person for her to ask comfort is him, who almost has the same situation as her.

Then...

Quote: 3. Her complete lack of suspicion after overhearing that conversation.


she did suspicious with this thing, i remember her having some flashback with this. Again.. this is a war, and she's with ZAFT. and of course she can't ask Athrun what happened, coz he will accused her for stalking him. lolz...
and....maybe becuase of Kira's intevention at the war, stop her to know the truth itself.. maybe....

Well, it just an opinion. I just can't blame them because its a war ^^

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I don't like her at all. She was very pretty at first and ONLY seem like an interesting character but after we go through the series, I realise that she was so stupid. Dont get it why she couldn't tell the real Lacus as she's the one who was on the spy. And for god sake she went to Shinn like? In the wrong time? First, I thought she was being like Fllay in GS. Like but I want revenge! Then... she was unbelievable! Suddenly went to Shinn? And why does she suddenly be all mad to Athrun about having to be in the same room with Meer, his fiancee, a.k.a Lacus. Lunamaria sucks!

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of course she can blame him, in real life when a sibling get almost killed you dont really like the person that almost killed him/her. ive never grasped the shin or luna logic. i dont care if u were told and u hasd no option im still gona blame you. imagine if she was neutral, shed be even dumb, maybe thats a point they are ment to be showing, altering genes will make u smarter but u mihgt still be dumb XD

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  • Dec 15, 2005

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lol..i dont really like her....i feel she is just something like Fray...*from gundam seed*..trying to use shinn....i think i like stellar more than her alot....on 1 part tat she used Impulse to destroy the...erm...dunno wat*sry..i kinda 4get alr..*...when rey killed tat bad guy...i tot she will be killled of the machine..even my bro also tot tat she will die....=.=..but in the end...she success...her sister is much better than her..
Oh ya...1 more thing..i was supposing to vote for *no one,bitch....*...but i accendentally clicked *Yolan n Luna*...sry 4 tat...^^""...wich ur not angry or anything...heheh...

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I like her... well not a lot but I think she's ok.

Even if I really think it's strange that she shows her affection to Shinn after her sister disappears. But I speak about circumstunces not the fact that she went with Shinn.

While she talked to Athrun about Shinn, I was wondering about her intentions, was Shinn more important for her than what she showed ?

I just think Lunamaria is the king of girl that try to be more joyful and sympathise with people (with Shinn and Rey, that's quite welcome).

Anyway I didn't think that Shinn loved that way Stellar. I feel like he was touched by Stellar 's fragility and pitiful situation, so he wants to protect her, a girl that didn't have the character to be a figther.

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  • Dec 15, 2005

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Quote by LacusClyne306lol..i dont really like her....i feel she is just something like Fray...*from gundam seed*..trying to use shinn....i think i like stellar more than her alot....on 1 part tat she used Impulse to destroy the...erm...dunno wat*sry..i kinda 4get alr..*...when rey killed tat bad guy...i tot she will be killled of the machine..even my bro also tot tat she will die....=.=..but in the end...she success...her sister is much better than her..
Oh ya...1 more thing..i was supposing to vote for *no one,bitch....*...but i accendentally clicked *Yolan n Luna*...sry 4 tat...^^""...wich ur not angry or anything...heheh...

Yeah I think you are right. Lunamaria was all about being with the one who has the power.


She once was looking towards Athrun for affection because of his past, and thought that he will use that awesome power this time, but he didn't until the end, where he gave Shinn the "smackth down"! Remember when he came back from PLANT as a member of FAITH? She nearly knocked her sister down to escort him to the captian! It was only when Shinn brought Athrun down during Arthruns' escape (and everyone knows Athrun wasn't going to fight Shinn, yet) when she diverted her attention towards Shinn.

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  • Dec 15, 2005
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... me thinking I'm the only one that doesn't see love interests everywhere...

I don't think she was showing love for Athrun, more a kind of friendship... at least comradship since Luna is easy-going.

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  • Dec 15, 2005

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Quote: honestly, i didn't like it too with their way making up to be a couple or something... but still, its life isn't it ? did you ever wonder to yourself, what will it be when you're in the middle of the war, and having that dilemna that Shinn have ? i can't blame him. He's got so many things in his mind already, and surprisingly, took an action to kill athrun. Yeah.. maybe he's just a little kid who can't think too far. But, that's one of my reason to not blame him for this. Now for Lunamaria, Maybe she just think that its so childlish to mad at Shinn. She knows that its a war. And of course she can't blame him either . With that sort of situation and confusion, of course many people want to ask comfort with someone right ? the only person for her to ask comfort is him, who almost has the same situation as her.

While I see what you're saying, I don't think that makes it any less strange. Trust me, I love Shinn and don't blame him at all. But Lunamaria... seriously, who would start macking on the guy who just killed your sister, war or not? There are other ways to find comfort.

Quote: she did suspicious with this thing, i remember her having some flashback with this. Again.. this is a war, and she's with ZAFT. and of course she can't ask Athrun what happened, coz he will accused her for stalking him. lolz...
and....maybe becuase of Kira's intevention at the war, stop her to know the truth itself.. maybe....

I know if I had overheard what she had, I'd be a lot more suspiscious... and then when my little sister was labeled a traitor, I'd definitely think about some things and even try to get answers, it doesn't matter what side I was fighting for. Actually, that makes it even more important. She should want to know what she's fighting to protect, eh?

Quote: I just think Lunamaria is the king of girl that try to be more joyful and sympathise with people (with Shinn and Rey, that's quite welcome).

Anyway I didn't think that Shinn loved that way Stellar. I feel like he was touched by Stellar 's fragility and pitiful situation, so he wants to protect her, a girl that didn't have the character to be a figther.

I never saw her being sympathetic to Shinn or Rey or joyous really, she was mostly absorbed in her crush on Athrun in the beginning. Then after that she was all over Shinn. Tell me in the series when she acted sympathetic (I can't remember but she might have.....)

I think Shinn loved Stellar way more than Lunamaria... but that's just me. ^^

Quote: I don't think she was showing love for Athrun, more a kind of friendship... at least comradship since Luna is easy-going.

It wasn't love. It was little crush on the war hero. In my opinion anyway. You don't have to get jealous when the guy is with his fiance if you're just friends, right? That's why I think she 'liked' him or at least the idea of Athrun Zala.

Quote: I don't like her at all. She was very pretty at first and ONLY seem like an interesting character but after we go through the series, I realise that she was so stupid. Dont get it why she couldn't tell the real Lacus as she's the one who was on the spy. And for god sake she went to Shinn like? In the wrong time? First, I thought she was being like Fllay in GS. Like but I want revenge! Then... she was unbelievable! Suddenly went to Shinn? And why does she suddenly be all mad to Athrun about having to be in the same room with Meer, his fiancee, a.k.a Lacus. Lunamaria sucks!

^______^ I agree! <333333333333333

Quote: of course she can blame him, in real life when a sibling get almost killed you dont really like the person that almost killed him/her. ive never grasped the shin or luna logic. i dont care if u were told and u hasd no option im still gona blame you. imagine if she was neutral, shed be even dumb, maybe thats a point they are ment to be showing, altering genes will make u smarter but u mihgt still be dumb XD

I also agree with this. Maybe not blame or hate the person (since they were comrades) but I'd never want to hook up with him. Really, I wouldn't want to be around him at first...

Quote: Oh ya...1 more thing..i was supposing to vote for *no one,bitch....*...but i accendentally clicked *Yolan n Luna*...sry 4 tat...^^""...wich ur not angry or anything...heheh...

Hahaha, no problem! <33333 ^^

My sister said something hilarious. That Lunamaria should get with Arthur and Athrun with Meyrin. Then at Christmas, Arthur, Meyrin, and Lunamaria can all fight over Athrun! <333333 ^_~


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  • Dec 16, 2005

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i dislike her for her thinking that she has the sole right to athrun! i mean she had thought that meer was lacus and his fiancee. so what's the prob with finding them in bed together? why does she have to storm off & get all jealous and angry!

Quote: Oh and don't yall think it would have been better if Heine had Luna's part? Well not her whole part, but you know, he could have been the third pilot. ^^ That would have been awesome.

totally agree!

i voted the last option! TEE HEE HEE!

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GREAT! I love it! Lunamaria's existence is definitely POINTLESS! I hate her! Heres a few reasons why i hate her:

1. Her hair is disgusting, its like its stuck there or something

2. She's desperate:
i) why get pissed off by meer when she's with asuran, does she mean anything to asuran? get a life girl!
ii) you FORCED yourself on Shinn, Luna-bitch.....you dun look compatible at all and guessed what, Shinn still loves Stellar MORE than you! BUZZ off

3. Her picture poses are WEIRD, i mean, why stuck out your BUTT everytime? Anyone noticed that?

4. She hints to Asuran her feelings but guess what? He doesnt care two hoots about you! Get a grip!

THERE, i hate her to the core!


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i wouldn't go to the extent to say i hate her but do i think her character was very inconsistent and had very little if not zero character development throughout GSD...how she became a zaft red is beyond me considering she can't even shoot a hand gun acturately in practice and she calls herself a coordinator ^_^' ...in addition her relationship with shin is weird to begin with..."oh looks like u shot down the guy i had a crush on and my little sister, lets be lovers ok?..." x_x...i wished athrun would have killed her in the final phase but i guess she got lucky...just like how she somehow managed to take down a couple of destroy gundams in the fight at heavens base yet she couldn't even shoot down jibril's defenseless shuttle in orb.... -_-

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  • Dec 16, 2005

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i disagree with those opinion i think Lunamaria isn't that bad even i think she's the best female character in the show.
i love ShinnXLuna coz she's totally better than Stellar who's always attack Shinn when they meet,and also coz Stellar is Psychotic girl who's always get brainwashed by Neo.
Lunamaria is so caring about Shinn and they're close friends it's isn't confusing for them to be a couple,coz they have strong feeling about each other diffrent than Shinn's feeling for Stellar who he Loook's as a replacement of Mayu (his sister).
and about Lunamaria's feelings for Athrun i think it's just kinda like a Junior who Idols her Senior. the scene with Meer is the way she disapointed that the person she respect so much would do that kind of thing(althrough it was a misunderstanding).
when Shinn's Gonna attack her it seems that he was verry angry and can't control himself or to make her avoid and the attack will connect to Athrun.

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Quote: i disagree with those opinion i think Lunamaria isn't that bad even i think she's the best female character in the show.
i love ShinnXLuna coz she's totally better than Stellar who's always attack Shinn when they meet,and also coz Stellar is Psychotic girl who's always get brainwashed by Neo.
Lunamaria is so caring about Shinn and they're close friends it's isn't confusing for them to be a couple,coz they have strong feeling about each other diffrent than Shinn's feeling for Stellar who he Loook's as a replacement of Mayu (his sister).
and about Lunamaria's feelings for Athrun i think it's just kinda like a Junior who Idols her Senior. the scene with Meer is the way she disapointed that the person she respect so much would do that kind of thing(althrough it was a misunderstanding).
when Shinn's Gonna attack her it seems that he was verry angry and can't control himself or to make her avoid and the attack will connect to Athrun.

Stellar was an extended and really couldn't help the way she was. And she only attacked Shinn when he said her block words. (Shinn/Stellar forever! <3) But anyway, how do you feel about Lunamaria hooking up with the guy who 'killed' her sister? Does that not strike you as strange?

I read in an interivew that Shinn wasn't close to anyone on Minerva. So he and Lunamaria weren't really that close of friends at first. So really.... that's not true. ^^;; And it's hinted majorly that Shinn and Stellar's relationship was romantic, in the fact that they spent half an episode together naked (almost) and in all of their official pictures where they look like a couple. ^^ Shinn did not see Stellar as a replacement for Mayu. No one can replace Mayu.

And Lunamaria expressed signs of what I would call a crush on Athrun, by getting jealous when he was with Meer, EVERYTIME she saw them together. And Meer was supposed to be his fiance. I guess Luna doesn't really care about that. >.>

Shinn wasn't concerned about Lunamaria. That's the impression I got. ::shrugs::

But it's cool that you have a different opinion. If you would I'd love to see you say a little more. ^___^

Quote: 3. Her picture poses are WEIRD, i mean, why stuck out your BUTT everytime? Anyone noticed that?

I've noticed it too. She's like "LOOK AT ME! I"M AN ATTENTION-WHORE!" ^___^

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  • Dec 16, 2005

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Luna? i think she isn't shallow... well maybe you think so because Fukuda made her like that. Poor Luna....

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hmm... but i knew eventually she's Shinn's couple from the start of GSD, that's why i was kinda shocked that Shinn goes with Stellar at first, but then he's with Luna.. too bad the relationship between them is kinda weird.

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Luna is such a waste of a character. I mean, if you take her out of Destiny, nothing changes. I'm convinced that the only reason she's popular is because her VA is Maaya Sakamoto. Who I like by the way, but I feel her talents are wasted on the empty shell that is Lunamaria.

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yeah i also want to say her hair looks super weird! like the two extra long side burns hanging out.

Quote: and about Lunamaria's feelings for Athrun i think it's just kinda like a Junior who Idols her Senior. the scene with Meer is the way she disapointed that the person she respect so much would do that kind of thing(althrough it was a misunderstanding).


erm.. i think she's been showing more than that. she's like so possessive of athrun's attention and everything and she's behaving as though she's his girl and getting jealous and angry whenever athrun talks to any girl! even her own sister! that's disgusting! she's literally throwing herself at him.

Quote: 3. Her picture poses are WEIRD, i mean, why stuck out your BUTT everytime? Anyone noticed that?


yeah i noticed that too!

but actually i wondered if all those who dislike her are girls. because it seems that luna is quite popular with the guys. my guy likes her. and she's super popular at the shops where i see lots of guys paying over hundreds for luna figurine.. that the shop owner has to order new stock!

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My take on this:

Blame Fukuda for not making it clear in the series who is matched with who. I mean, I can understand that maybe, and tht a big maybe, Fukuda felt stranded by people's initial reaction to the series during the earlier episodes, and he tried to change the course of the series, which ended up messing the story line in every aspect.

The series (GS Destiny) began clearly showing that Shinn was going to be the main character. So that entitled him with being the most powerfull pilot already (at least at this early stage). Then Athrun shows up and Luna says about him being a leyend. Now, she's a teenager, and like someone already stated earlier in this thread (and backed up) she's full of herself, conceited, blah blah blah. She obviously has a crush on Athrun, but I'd dare to say (like someone else already did) that's nothing more than a junior having a crush at her senior, specially the later one being a living leyend.

So, she's a teenager, she's also inmature; combine that with the typical-classic stereotype of the attention-whore (excuse my language), and you'll get a girl that's infatuated by a powerfull guy.

Now, in one of the earlier episodes, she was taking a shower and Meyrin was picking up some clothes to wear, and Luna was complaining about Shinn behaviour towards Athrun and clearly states: "...I don't kow what to do with him."

So unless she has any kind of romantic interest with Shinn, why would she care about what to do with him? (You might want to watch again that episode to get a fuller picture)

So then when Meyrin says that Athrun is more mature, Luna seems perplexed about it for she thought he was only a year older than her. That further increases her crush on him, but again, not a serious romantic interet.

As for why she was so jealous, pissed off, or whatever, when she found Athrun and Meer (a.k.a Lacus) in his hotel room: Well, someone already said it, she was simply surprised to find the guy she admires / has a crush on in such a situation. Yes, she thought that Lacus was her fiance (leaving the whole Lacus plot out of this), and that's why she says to him in a stuck up manner that she understand what's going on. She acted that way because her crush was, well, crushed (no pun intended).

About her rivalry with Meyrin, that's pretty straight foward: They both are competing for his attention, so even though Meyrin is her sister, she's going to challenge her. After all, no matter how cute Meyrin may be, she's also an attention-whore (a shy one at it). I mean, look at the episode where they both go out shopping and Luna tells / asked her why she need to buy so much stuff. Plus, Meyrin trying to look nice, and well, you get the idea.

So then the whole Shinn thing. I bet that during their training / studies in the military academy, Shinn was admired by a lot of girls. He seems, according to the plot line, that kind of guy, along with Rey. And I bet Luna had romantic interest with Shinn (Rey is cold towards her - recap to the episodes where he tell her to not fall in the water for he won't save her). Shinn, even though he's unattached towards people, and has a nasty way of conveying his thoughts, he always was warm towards Luna. Yes, he never openly / directly hit on her, but she was about the only person he would let get close to him when he was pissed off.

I know, he didn't quite confide in her, and for that he had Rey, YET every time he would storm off after any argument, or being pissed off, only Luna was able to follow him (even though the series never explicitly showed). A good example is after Heine's death, when the military personel was taking Heine's personal belongings, Shinn say some of his famous rants, and stormed off really pissed of, and Luna ran after him (would of liked to see the show developed that part a little more).

Hell, I would of loved for Fukuda not killed Heine so soon, he was a cool and funny character (kind of reminds me of Duo Maxwell from G wing). In fact, Heine could of being the perfect guy for hooking up those two. I don't know, maybe duting some dinner, Luna could of complained about Shinn childish behaviour, and Heine could of remark her behaviour being childish as well, and in his way make a hint of Shinn and Luna being a good matched. And Athrun could of helped in that department too. Hell, he actually did it once. In the episode when the pilots had the day off, Athrun told Luna to go out with Shinn. I don't know. There definetly were many ways to accomplish that.

With that whole Shinn being the one who "killed" Athrun and Meyrin, I agree, that was a really messed up thing how they got together, but then, blame it on Fukuda, not the characters.

The whole Shinn + Stellar thing I believe can be kept out of this, whatever is that Shinn felt for Stellar, I will dare to say that it wasn't strong in the romance department. I trully think it was more of an emotion based on compasion than anything else. I'm not saying it wasn't strong, because it clearly was (they guy sure cried over it). But nothing that would compromise any future relation with Luna.

At the end, I say is was more that Fukuda felt under presure to fix the show so it could - somehow - climb up from the whole it felt in, and in the process to find a way to solve the main plot he screwed up, and messed up everything along the way.

Now, as for why people don't like Lunamaria, specially the girls; well, someone already hit the nail on that one: Most guys like her a lot, after all she's pretty-cute-perky-slutty, and is always showing a little of her legs and ass ;)

Just my 2 cents.

P.S: I voted Shinn + Lunamaria

  • Dec 28, 2005

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I like her . What's wrong if she loves Shinn-sama ? The two of them are all lost their sister . And they're friend , close friend . The way from friend to love is not too far . And she's better for Shinn-sama than Stellar . I think that , don't kill me if you're Stellar's friend eh >< She looks active and happily ! And Shinn-sama really loves her !

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i voted for SHINNxLUNAMARIA.

this thread is already converted to a bashing thread, look at the immature people who posted uneccesary comments.

it is extremely ludacris to think of lunamaria as the alternative of Fllay. Fllay manipulated Kira. Lunamaria never manipulated shinn. if you're thinking about that one episode where she put her hand on his head, that was just a motion of comfort.

i find it funny that you think of her as a slut. remember the episode in SEED. when fllay took off her jacket, tied up her shirt, and tried to get cagalli away from kira? lunamaria never dressed a certain way to get attention from shinn or athrun.

end of story. i feel like someones going to be on me for this, so i refuse to associate with this thread any further.

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Is that so ? Lunamaria's impopular with girls ?!

I like her and I think my sister likes her too.

I still think she cared about Shinn, like when she tried to make excuses for Shinn to Athrun... towards Rey, well Rey wasn't really friendly towards her and I think that she has understood that.

Anyway, I still think she was the only one that really acts friendly towards Athrun - especially since he isn't one to open up and I can't say that Rey or Shinn really want to play that role.

For the Meer part, I think she was surprised that Athrun who probably seemed to her a really courtous guy has appeared to be so far... and that she was too in the way

Anyway, I'm really disappointed how the original characters were treated, I didn't even feel that I have learnt a lot about Rey or Meyrin...

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  • Dec 29, 2005

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